From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: dexen deVries To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 11:12:55 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.6 (Linux/2.6.39-rc3-22+; KDE/4.5.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <627b33ef9b0f9b47871178dff9d4cfbe@terzarima.net> In-Reply-To: <627b33ef9b0f9b47871178dff9d4cfbe@terzarima.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201104291112.55221.dexen.devries@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames Topicbox-Message-UUID: d8258426-ead6-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Friday 29 of April 2011 11:18:26 Charles Forsyth wrote: > > complaining is because you _need_ linux... to furnish all the things > > you can't do with plan 9 - either personally, or within your > > organization. >=20 > it's true, but at least i haven't got to run either Windows or MacOS. > the underlying problem is that the things we might simply import (mainly > browser) can't simply be imported. it's not just us: you might have > noticed that Google's Picasaweb runs under Linux by including a copy of > Wine as part of its iceberg. also google in any alternative-os list you > like for a discussion of the hopelessness of ./configure qmake (Qt's makefile generator) is mostly reasonable IMHO. consists of one= =20 program (the qmake) which reads a rather simple project description=20 (<>.pro) plus a bunch of platform description files=20 (/usr/lib{,64}/qt/mkspec/<>/qmake.conf + whatever it includes) an= d=20 outputs reasonable makefiles. at any rate, the supposed replacements for autoconf/automake aren't shining= =20 examples of engineering either -- usually big & complex. i guess it's more= =20 about mindset (``let's check every itty-gritty detail and let's abstract aw= ay=20 differences between platforms'') than the problem space, thou. =2D-=20 dexen deVries [[[=E2=86=93][=E2=86=92]]] ``In other news, STFU and hack.'' mahmud, in response to Erann Gat's ``How I lost my faith in Lisp'' http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3D2308816