From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: errno To: 9fans@9fans.net Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 21:09:06 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.6 (Linux/2.6.38-ARCH; KDE/4.6.2; i686; ; ) References: <81c53af1b0f0a1417a25ed9b525381e5@bellsouth.net> <201105012011.06719.errno@cox.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201105012109.06119.errno@cox.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames Topicbox-Message-UUID: dadb5b78-ead6-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Sunday, May 01, 2011 08:15:12 PM erik quanstrom wrote: > > The freedom _from_ an extra, extraneous, alien environment. [1] > > but it's a web browser. it's already an alien environment. :-) > Man I had hunch you would say that. :) Inferno is an alien environment too, but you don't run linuxemu to run linux-hosted inferno - you run a native inferno directly on plan 9. I'd like to run a "more native web" directly on plan 9. The idea is to remove the "middle-man". That's the 'extra' part of the "extra, extraneous, alien" I had referred to. (and, forget about the "browser" part of the "web" for now - I think web _browsers_ suck worse than the web itself - I'm just concerned with the web _engine_ for now) > > The freedom _for_ building a variety of native front-ends. > > > > The freedom _for_ integrating with existing native libraries. > > what's the advantage here? > The same basic advantages you'd get for running native plan 9 inferno rather than running inferno for linux under linuxemu (if that's even possible). Or largely the same reasons I prefer to run the vim ported from ape, than a vim running in a vnc window or under linuxemu (again, if that's even possible - I haven't yet played w/ linuxemu), but a purely native vim would be even better; even though vim may be considered alien. > i don't want to build a front-end to > a web browser, > I imagine there's a large host of things on crontrib that you yourself have no personal interest in developing with or using. > and i don't really care if it links against libc or whatever. > And I don't really care to learn and write limbo for inferno. Thus, for me, linking against libc on plan 9 is considered more optimal. On Sunday, May 01, 2011 08:39:02 PM ron minnich wrote: > On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:11 PM, errno wrote: > > etc. > > Just wondering if you have looked at webfs. > I've browsed the source, a few months ago; when I first felt the lack of a more current-standards-conforming web experience. (I keep saying "web experience" so as not to tie myself to "web browser".)