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From: dexen deVries <dexen.devries@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] novel userspace paradigms introduced by plan 9
Date: Sun,  3 Jul 2011 20:10:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201107032010.00784.dexen.devries@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.OSX.1.10.1107031054110.3950@rastawifi.orthanc.ca>

On Sunday 03 July 2011 19:57:16 Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
> Actually, what this discussion keep pointing out is the elegance of the
> Plan9 authentication model vs. UNIX's superuser scheme.  It's the lack
> of a superuser that makes the whole namespace paradigm work in the first
> place.


authentication is a system component by the very nature of the problem it
solves, and keeping it off-line in any way (superuser counts as off-line most
of the time) or high-latency (superuser again) is a significant problem.

in UNIX you have a (non-turing complete) program deployed by the superuser
(contents of /etc/{passwd,group}); any protocol (in the broad sense) that
makes use of authentication has to take that into account.

the current www environment also seems to shifts towards authentication based
on OpenID and similar, which i'd liken to factotum in a broad sense.

--
dexen deVries

> (...) I never use more than 800Mb of RAM. I am running Linux,
> a browser and a terminal.
rjbond3rd in http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2692529



  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-03 18:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-02 16:15 Robert Seaton
2011-07-02 16:23 ` Jacob Todd
2011-07-17 12:37   ` Eugene Gorodinsky
2011-07-17 13:54     ` Charles Forsyth
2011-07-18  8:32       ` Eugene Gorodinsky
2011-07-18 17:14         ` Charles Forsyth
2011-07-19  7:50           ` Eugene Gorodinsky
2011-07-02 16:29 ` dexen deVries
2011-07-02 17:24   ` Jack Johnson
2011-07-02 17:34     ` [9fans] To p9 or not to p9? (was: novel userspace paradigms introduced by plan 9) dexen deVries
2011-07-02 18:23     ` [9fans] novel userspace paradigms introduced by plan 9 Eli Cohen
2011-07-02 18:36       ` dexen deVries
2011-07-02 23:10         ` simon softnet
2011-07-02 23:31           ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2011-07-03  8:55             ` simon softnet
2011-07-03 11:06         ` Connor Lane Smith
2011-07-03 14:38           ` Iruatã Souza
2011-07-03 22:05             ` Charles Forsyth
2011-07-03 17:57           ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2011-07-03 18:10             ` dexen deVries [this message]
2011-07-03 20:44             ` erik quanstrom
2011-07-03 20:53               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2011-07-03 20:57                 ` erik quanstrom
2011-07-03 21:08                   ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-07-03 21:29                     ` ron minnich
2011-07-03 21:38                       ` andrew zerger
2011-07-03 21:39                         ` andrew zerger
2011-07-03 21:51                       ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-07-17 16:25                     ` Nicolas Bercher
     [not found]         ` <CAMdzYRr4_2JdEXaZ8cg=_9CJYzZr63HtEAtaG6x8WXGrPtp_DQ@mail.gmail.c>
2011-07-03 11:55           ` erik quanstrom
2011-07-03 12:32             ` Connor Lane Smith
     [not found]             ` <CAMdzYRowH+Y3UA4iyPy+4dP-cE064A6XZXvTbB1M-jBypu_ORw@mail.gmail.c>
2011-07-03 12:51               ` erik quanstrom
2011-07-03 13:13                 ` Connor Lane Smith
2011-07-04  6:44 ` Yaroslav
2011-07-04 14:59   ` Robert Seaton
2011-07-16 10:52     ` simon softnet
2011-07-16 19:12       ` David Leimbach
2011-07-16 19:17         ` simon softnet
2011-07-16 19:32           ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-07-16 21:10             ` simon softnet
2011-07-17  9:38               ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-07-18  9:04       ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2011-07-18  9:30         ` dexen deVries

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