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From: dexen deVries <dexen.devries@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] novel userspace paradigms introduced by plan 9
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 11:30:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201107181130.48479.dexen.devries@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uhi8f8xmf3.ln2@news.homelinux.net>

On Monday 18 of July 2011 11:04:51 Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
> On 07/16/2011 04:23 PM, simon softnet wrote:
> > Please, don't let plan 9 and linux be interrelated in the future in any
> > way ...
> > Future plan 9 users have the opportunity to experience novel user-space
> > paradigms.
> > Why do they have to be sucked into the linux world?

+1

 
> I think, we can govern a revolution, yet can't stop an evolution; try
> finding how and, or why Coherent (operating system), Minix and then
> GNU/Linux were created.
> 
> IMHO, we need to know and, or learn how to pull a mob or engage masses
> into a development, launch, marketing, feedback and rectification
> process life cycle of a product.


noob-friendly implies hacker-unfriendly. or at least boring. no formal proof 
available, but enough of anecdotes is close to data.

IMHO linux tries to appeal to wide audience to force hardware vendors to 
release drivers or specs, and software vendors to ensure interoperability. we 
may want to be able to piggy-back plan9 kernel on linux kernel -- because 
linux has drivers for most chips out there. just have userspace go through 
plan 9 kernel all the time.

once that's done, we don't need to cater to joe public /that/ much.


-- 
dexen deVries

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      reply	other threads:[~2011-07-18  9:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-02 16:15 Robert Seaton
2011-07-02 16:23 ` Jacob Todd
2011-07-17 12:37   ` Eugene Gorodinsky
2011-07-17 13:54     ` Charles Forsyth
2011-07-18  8:32       ` Eugene Gorodinsky
2011-07-18 17:14         ` Charles Forsyth
2011-07-19  7:50           ` Eugene Gorodinsky
2011-07-02 16:29 ` dexen deVries
2011-07-02 17:24   ` Jack Johnson
2011-07-02 17:34     ` [9fans] To p9 or not to p9? (was: novel userspace paradigms introduced by plan 9) dexen deVries
2011-07-02 18:23     ` [9fans] novel userspace paradigms introduced by plan 9 Eli Cohen
2011-07-02 18:36       ` dexen deVries
2011-07-02 23:10         ` simon softnet
2011-07-02 23:31           ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2011-07-03  8:55             ` simon softnet
2011-07-03 11:06         ` Connor Lane Smith
2011-07-03 14:38           ` Iruatã Souza
2011-07-03 22:05             ` Charles Forsyth
2011-07-03 17:57           ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2011-07-03 18:10             ` dexen deVries
2011-07-03 20:44             ` erik quanstrom
2011-07-03 20:53               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2011-07-03 20:57                 ` erik quanstrom
2011-07-03 21:08                   ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-07-03 21:29                     ` ron minnich
2011-07-03 21:38                       ` andrew zerger
2011-07-03 21:39                         ` andrew zerger
2011-07-03 21:51                       ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-07-17 16:25                     ` Nicolas Bercher
     [not found]         ` <CAMdzYRr4_2JdEXaZ8cg=_9CJYzZr63HtEAtaG6x8WXGrPtp_DQ@mail.gmail.c>
2011-07-03 11:55           ` erik quanstrom
2011-07-03 12:32             ` Connor Lane Smith
     [not found]             ` <CAMdzYRowH+Y3UA4iyPy+4dP-cE064A6XZXvTbB1M-jBypu_ORw@mail.gmail.c>
2011-07-03 12:51               ` erik quanstrom
2011-07-03 13:13                 ` Connor Lane Smith
2011-07-04  6:44 ` Yaroslav
2011-07-04 14:59   ` Robert Seaton
2011-07-16 10:52     ` simon softnet
2011-07-16 19:12       ` David Leimbach
2011-07-16 19:17         ` simon softnet
2011-07-16 19:32           ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-07-16 21:10             ` simon softnet
2011-07-17  9:38               ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-07-18  9:04       ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2011-07-18  9:30         ` dexen deVries [this message]

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