From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: dexen deVries To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 11:30:48 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.6 (Linux/3.0.0-rc6-l34+; KDE/4.5.5; x86_64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201107181130.48479.dexen.devries@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] novel userspace paradigms introduced by plan 9 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 03c1dca6-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Monday 18 of July 2011 11:04:51 Balwinder S Dheeman wrote: > On 07/16/2011 04:23 PM, simon softnet wrote: > > Please, don't let plan 9 and linux be interrelated in the future in any > > way ... > > Future plan 9 users have the opportunity to experience novel user-space > > paradigms. > > Why do they have to be sucked into the linux world? +1 =20 > I think, we can govern a revolution, yet can't stop an evolution; try > finding how and, or why Coherent (operating system), Minix and then > GNU/Linux were created. >=20 > IMHO, we need to know and, or learn how to pull a mob or engage masses > into a development, launch, marketing, feedback and rectification > process life cycle of a product. noob-friendly implies hacker-unfriendly. or at least boring. no formal proo= f=20 available, but enough of anecdotes is close to data. IMHO linux tries to appeal to wide audience to force hardware vendors to=20 release drivers or specs, and software vendors to ensure interoperability. = we=20 may want to be able to piggy-back plan9 kernel on linux kernel -- because=20 linux has drivers for most chips out there. just have userspace go through= =20 plan 9 kernel all the time. once that's done, we don't need to cater to joe public /that/ much. =2D-=20 dexen deVries [[[=E2=86=93][=E2=86=92]]] =46or example, if the first thing in the file is: an XML parser will recognize that the document is stored in the traditional= =20 ROT13 encoding. (( Joe English, http://www.flightlab.com/~joe/sgml/faq-not.txt ))