* [9fans] issuing fshalt shuts down rio and gives the following
@ 2012-01-19 10:32 ROuNIN
2012-01-19 11:30 ` David du Colombier
2012-01-30 9:44 ` [9fans] issuing fshalt shuts down rio and gives the ROuNIN
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From: ROuNIN @ 2012-01-19 10:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
Hello,
Recently, I noticed a change from what I do not recall to be the
behavoiur I saw some time ago
When I issue an fshalt, it shuts down rio and give the following
outside rio
init: starting /bin/rc
term%
ROuNIN
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* Re: [9fans] issuing fshalt shuts down rio and gives the following
2012-01-19 10:32 [9fans] issuing fshalt shuts down rio and gives the following ROuNIN
@ 2012-01-19 11:30 ` David du Colombier
2012-01-19 12:15 ` Peter A. Cejchan
2012-01-19 13:13 ` erik quanstrom
2012-01-30 9:44 ` [9fans] issuing fshalt shuts down rio and gives the ROuNIN
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From: David du Colombier @ 2012-01-19 11:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> Recently, I noticed a change from what I do not recall to be the
> behavoiur I saw some time ago
>
> When I issue an fshalt, it shuts down rio and give the following
> outside rio
> init: starting /bin/rc
> term%
Yes, I got surprised when I first saw this change in may 2011,
but it's just normal behavior.
It kills rio and get back to cga mode to be able to reboot properly.
--
David du Colombier
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* Re: [9fans] issuing fshalt shuts down rio and gives the following
2012-01-19 11:30 ` David du Colombier
@ 2012-01-19 12:15 ` Peter A. Cejchan
2012-01-19 13:39 ` David du Colombier
2012-01-19 13:13 ` erik quanstrom
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From: Peter A. Cejchan @ 2012-01-19 12:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
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is it okay to do ^T^Tr (or, CtlAltDel) then? I guess it is, however..
++pac
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* Re: [9fans] issuing fshalt shuts down rio and gives the following
2012-01-19 11:30 ` David du Colombier
2012-01-19 12:15 ` Peter A. Cejchan
@ 2012-01-19 13:13 ` erik quanstrom
2012-01-19 13:35 ` Peter A. Cejchan
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From: erik quanstrom @ 2012-01-19 13:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Thu Jan 19 06:31:30 EST 2012, 0intro@gmail.com wrote:
> > Recently, I noticed a change from what I do not recall to be the
> > behavoiur I saw some time ago
> >
> > When I issue an fshalt, it shuts down rio and give the following
> > outside rio
> > init: starting /bin/rc
> > term%
>
> Yes, I got surprised when I first saw this change in may 2011,
> but it's just normal behavior.
>
> It kills rio and get back to cga mode to be able to reboot properly.
given that output, it is not clear that fshalt is really halting.
(expect, using kernel $fu...)
can you still run normal commands afterwards, or has your fs
shut down? you may wish to sprinkle some echoes in the
fshalt script and see where things fail.
- erik
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* Re: [9fans] issuing fshalt shuts down rio and gives the following
2012-01-19 13:13 ` erik quanstrom
@ 2012-01-19 13:35 ` Peter A. Cejchan
2012-01-19 13:44 ` David du Colombier
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From: Peter A. Cejchan @ 2012-01-19 13:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
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I've just checked it out, just boot/login/logout:
the terminal went to 'black' (== txt) mode with
prompt:
fsys all sync
main sync: wrote blocks ## why??
(then, cursor blinks until <Enter>)
term%
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* Re: [9fans] issuing fshalt shuts down rio and gives the following
2012-01-19 12:15 ` Peter A. Cejchan
@ 2012-01-19 13:39 ` David du Colombier
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From: David du Colombier @ 2012-01-19 13:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> is it okay to do ^T^Tr (or, CtlAltDel) then? I guess it is, however..
Yes. You just have to wait for your file system
to synchronize and halt.
--
David du Colombier
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* Re: [9fans] issuing fshalt shuts down rio and gives the following
2012-01-19 13:35 ` Peter A. Cejchan
@ 2012-01-19 13:44 ` David du Colombier
2012-01-19 14:23 ` Peter A. Cejchan
[not found] ` <CAM6ozu5ZTZ-Q7R2G9jgkWZdxgs_86n+j4pO3XarL0_c3W+_njw@mail.gmail.c>
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From: David du Colombier @ 2012-01-19 13:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> I've just checked it out, just boot/login/logout:
> the terminal went to 'black' (== txt) mode with
> prompt:
> fsys all sync
> main sync: wrote blocks ## why??
fshalt runs fossilcons(4) sync to flush the cache,
before halting the file system.
> (then, cursor blinks until <Enter>)
> term%
It looks fine.
--
David du Colombier
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* Re: [9fans] issuing fshalt shuts down rio and gives the following
2012-01-19 13:44 ` David du Colombier
@ 2012-01-19 14:23 ` Peter A. Cejchan
2012-01-19 14:51 ` David du Colombier
[not found] ` <CAM6ozu5ZTZ-Q7R2G9jgkWZdxgs_86n+j4pO3XarL0_c3W+_njw@mail.gmail.c>
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From: Peter A. Cejchan @ 2012-01-19 14:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
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why did it write anything wnen nothing was changed? just login/fshalt...
> fshalt runs fossilcons(4) sync to flush the cache,
> before halting the file system.
>
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@ 2012-01-19 14:38 ` erik quanstrom
2012-01-19 14:54 ` tlaronde
2012-01-19 15:02 ` Peter A. Cejchan
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From: erik quanstrom @ 2012-01-19 14:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> why did it write anything wnen nothing was changed? just login/fshalt...
>
atime updates.
i'm not convinced that everything is fine. are you running
the current version of fshalt, fossil? there are a couple
of expect scripts hiding in fshalt, and they could easily
be confused.
- erik
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* Re: [9fans] issuing fshalt shuts down rio and gives the following
2012-01-19 14:23 ` Peter A. Cejchan
@ 2012-01-19 14:51 ` David du Colombier
0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: David du Colombier @ 2012-01-19 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> why did it write anything wnen nothing was changed? just
> login/fshalt...
It is likely to be atime updates.
--
David du Colombier
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* Re: [9fans] issuing fshalt shuts down rio and gives the following
2012-01-19 14:38 ` erik quanstrom
@ 2012-01-19 14:54 ` tlaronde
2012-01-19 15:06 ` David du Colombier
2012-01-19 15:02 ` Peter A. Cejchan
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From: tlaronde @ 2012-01-19 14:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 09:38:40AM -0500, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > why did it write anything wnen nothing was changed? just login/fshalt...
> >
>
> atime updates.
>
> i'm not convinced that everything is fine. are you running
> the current version of fshalt, fossil? there are a couple
> of expect scripts hiding in fshalt, and they could easily
> be confused.
Since I have a vanilla fresh install, I can tell that what is described
is the default behavior. The fs does sync and halt.
The only curious thing is that "fshalt -r" does reboot, but reboots say
Plan9, and not the computer (restarts from 9load it seems). [I'm not
saying it should not or whatever; it is a constatation and it probably
makes sense for a Plan9 terminal.]
--
Thierry Laronde <tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com>
http://www.kergis.com/
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* Re: [9fans] issuing fshalt shuts down rio and gives the following
2012-01-19 14:38 ` erik quanstrom
2012-01-19 14:54 ` tlaronde
@ 2012-01-19 15:02 ` Peter A. Cejchan
1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Peter A. Cejchan @ 2012-01-19 15:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
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... there've been some issues around pull considering files as locally
modified while they weren't... thus, I have some outdated versions of
everything ... I'll try to edit the pull's output to pull -s list, then
we'll see.
Although unhappy with that, I am spending much time now on linux, writing
in 'Go', as I depend on packages using features introduced after Go 60.2,
sigh...
Thanks, regards,
++pac
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* Re: [9fans] issuing fshalt shuts down rio and gives the following
2012-01-19 14:54 ` tlaronde
@ 2012-01-19 15:06 ` David du Colombier
2012-01-19 16:20 ` erik quanstrom
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From: David du Colombier @ 2012-01-19 15:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> The only curious thing is that "fshalt -r" does reboot, but reboots
> say Plan9, and not the computer (restarts from 9load it seems). [I'm
> not saying it should not or whatever; it is a constatation and it
> probably makes sense for a Plan9 terminal.]
It reloads the current kernel using #c/reboot.
--
David du Colombier
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* Re: [9fans] issuing fshalt shuts down rio and gives the following
2012-01-19 15:06 ` David du Colombier
@ 2012-01-19 16:20 ` erik quanstrom
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From: erik quanstrom @ 2012-01-19 16:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Thu Jan 19 10:06:50 EST 2012, 0intro@gmail.com wrote:
> > The only curious thing is that "fshalt -r" does reboot, but reboots
> > say Plan9, and not the computer (restarts from 9load it seems). [I'm
> > not saying it should not or whatever; it is a constatation and it
> > probably makes sense for a Plan9 terminal.]
>
> It reloads the current kernel using #c/reboot.
not correct. it loads the current default kernel,
from /n/boot/$cputype/9xxx. where xxx is determined
by peeking at $terminal.
- erik
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* Re: [9fans] issuing fshalt shuts down rio and gives the
2012-01-19 10:32 [9fans] issuing fshalt shuts down rio and gives the following ROuNIN
2012-01-19 11:30 ` David du Colombier
@ 2012-01-30 9:44 ` ROuNIN
2012-02-22 23:29 ` Nicolas Bercher
1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: ROuNIN @ 2012-01-30 9:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
Why can we not re-instate the following messages at least the "done
halting":
term% fshalt
syncing.../srv/fscons...prompt: venti...
halting.../srv/fscons...
prompt:
done halting
ROuNIN
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2012-01-30 9:44 ` [9fans] issuing fshalt shuts down rio and gives the ROuNIN
@ 2012-02-22 23:29 ` Nicolas Bercher
0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Bercher @ 2012-02-22 23:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On 30/01/2012 10:44, ROuNIN wrote:
> Why can we not re-instate the following messages at least the "done
> halting":
>
> term% fshalt
> syncing.../srv/fscons...prompt: venti...
> halting.../srv/fscons...
> prompt:
> done halting
That an important point to me: how can I be sure all of the fshalt stuff
is done for good? I'm currently setting up a Plan 9 cpu/fs/auth with
recent iso and this really confused to me at first.
Actually, after (too) many reboots, I saw "done halting" only once.
Nicolas
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