From: tlaronde@polynum.com
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Multi-dimensional filesystem
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 19:33:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120815173327.GA424@polynum.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPTfE6UcGzOa-Sc8fSFTuPh5ftmo4K-9sXBy=ZcKXu7h7P4tYg@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 07:04:28PM +0300, Eugene Gorodinsky wrote:
> I'm sure I must not understand the problem fully and am confused because of
> that, but how is this idea of multidimensionality different from a
> relational filesystem approach such as befs (
> http://www.nobius.org/~dbg/practical-file-system-design.pdf)?
One can obviously mimick what I have described with a database, fields,
the relationships being built by indexing.
The hierarchical (but with multiple parents as well as multiple
children) is a representation of the indexing in this case.
So the BeFS could---from a cursory look about the combination of
database, indexing and hierachy representation---offer a solution,
except that the multiple parents, is not there (this could be, as well
as with other systems, be done with .+ and .- presentation).
The main differences from what I have in mind are:
1) There is no general relational database concept: the relationships of
the "records" (files, that can have both a text content [the definition
in my example] and be a directory node) is exclusively isomorphic to
coordinates: (i, j, k, ...).
2) There is no constraint in the size of the "fields": the dimension can
grow with time (no given dimensions coordinates being, by convention,
equal to 0 to reach the actual dimension) ; there is no limit (except
implementation one) for the size of an enumeration.
3) The hierarchy is the user interface, to view and to add the data: a
new file (record) is added by placing it in the hierarchy; while in a
relational database, the indexing is deduced from the actual records;
here, so to say, the data is entered through the indexing.
4) And the problem was also thought through 9P: is there something in 9P
that would prevent, at least theoritically, such a view of data to be
presented? With the convention of ".+" and ".-", my answer is no: 9P has
no hardcoded knowledge of ".." if I'm not mistaken.
--
Thierry Laronde <tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-08-15 17:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-08-03 17:18 tlaronde
2012-08-03 18:58 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2012-08-03 19:25 ` tlaronde
2012-08-03 21:08 ` Burton Samograd
2012-08-03 21:12 ` Kurt H Maier
2012-08-03 21:17 ` Burton Samograd
2012-08-04 6:13 ` tlaronde
2012-08-04 10:56 ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2012-08-04 15:00 ` tlaronde
2012-08-04 12:16 ` Nicolas Bercher
2012-08-04 15:20 ` tlaronde
2012-08-05 15:29 ` Charles Forsyth
2012-08-05 17:36 ` tlaronde
2012-08-15 16:04 ` Eugene Gorodinsky
2012-08-15 17:33 ` tlaronde [this message]
2012-08-15 20:09 ` Bakul Shah
2012-08-15 20:17 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-15 21:00 ` Bakul Shah
2012-08-16 1:38 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-16 4:06 ` Bakul Shah
2012-08-16 13:45 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-15 21:27 ` tlaronde
2012-08-16 3:47 ` Bakul Shah
2012-08-16 5:34 ` tlaronde
2012-08-16 13:40 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-16 15:41 ` tlaronde
2012-08-16 16:06 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-16 16:28 ` tlaronde
2012-08-16 15:59 ` Bakul Shah
2012-08-16 16:31 ` tlaronde
2012-08-16 16:48 ` Burton Samograd
2012-08-16 17:02 ` Eugene Gorodinsky
2012-08-16 19:48 ` tlaronde
2012-08-16 20:11 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-17 6:48 ` tlaronde
2012-08-17 7:48 ` Lucio De Re
2012-08-20 15:17 ` tlaronde
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