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Subject: Re: [9fans] c++
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On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 03:21:37PM +0000, Charles Forsyth wrote:
> I see. That might be tedious.
>

If you ask around, you'll find tons of stories from people who took
entry-level programming courses, taught in C++, who got in trouble for
submitting C-compliant or similar code.  Many schools teach design
patterns and top-down object cruft as gospel, and actively punish
students who merely submit clean, efficient code.

It's a problem.