From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 21:37:05 -0500 From: Tassilo Philipp To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Message-Id: <20130317213705.518c0bd4b389a6bcf6b3fba7@potion-studios.com> In-Reply-To: <870af67bb795fb08dff2def563fbdfcf@sphericalharmony.com> References: <870af67bb795fb08dff2def563fbdfcf@sphericalharmony.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mycroftiv@sphericalharmony.com Subject: Re: [9fans] Tassilo Philip, you asked the perfect question Topicbox-Message-UUID: 2d880c94-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > Thank you for this response. This allows me to clarify the issues. > > I wrote and released free and open source software, and I made a big > attempt to discuss the ideas and get feedback. > > No one is willing to use the software, discuss the ideas, and give > feedback. "Dude", give it some time... You are writing to a mailing list of a rather small, but _dedicated_ community, that is absolutely open to good ideas and design. However, I'd bet that a lot of us have a lot of things to do, every day - things that have nothing to do with Plan9. I, for example, I work in games. PC games to be precise, a Windows-dominated world. I learned a lot through this list, and surely miss many of the Plan9 ideas in other operating systems. I would love to spend 100% of my time to port software to Plan9 (which it is lacking, for sure), but simply can't. Work, family, personal projects, 50+ emails a day to work through, etc.. You know, I see so many interesting ideas from all kinds of people every week, and I usually leave my browser-tabs open, to look at them in detail, later. And guess what: often, I never get around it. Looking at ANTS, I like what I see, but quite honestly, to really 'grok' it, I need to use it. This doesn't just happen in a few hours after reading your post. If you are looking for _instant_ feedback from people, you would be much better off coming up with some fancy CSS-styling effect and posting it on slashdot. Even cooler if it works in IE. Or yet another web framework. Yes, there is some sarcasm in that sentence. Do I like what the computing world developed into? Not really, as many things that we use every day could be so much better - but I have to deal with it, learn from it, and be happy with what I can accomplish.