* [9fans] off topic: full unicode support isn't easy
@ 2013-07-24 2:59 Aharon Robbins
2013-07-24 5:09 ` erik quanstrom
2013-07-24 14:12 ` Kurt H Maier
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From: Aharon Robbins @ 2013-07-24 2:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
FYI
Creative usernames and Spotify account hijacking
http://labs.spotify.com/2013/06/18/creative-usernames/
Arnold
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* Re: [9fans] off topic: full unicode support isn't easy
2013-07-24 2:59 [9fans] off topic: full unicode support isn't easy Aharon Robbins
@ 2013-07-24 5:09 ` erik quanstrom
2013-07-24 21:38 ` Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
2013-07-24 14:12 ` Kurt H Maier
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: erik quanstrom @ 2013-07-24 5:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Tue Jul 23 23:16:14 EDT 2013, arnold@skeeve.com wrote:
> FYI
>
> Creative usernames and Spotify account hijacking
> http://labs.spotify.com/2013/06/18/creative-usernames/
i took a different lessons.
0. uncode support isn't binary. one might reasonably support a subset.
(i wonder if they'd let me have “0021bf upwards harpoon with barb leftwards”
as a user name? would it serve any business purpose?)
1. it's important to write down what the requirements really are especially
when relying on external code to get it done. better yet, have the code check the
requirements are met.
- erik
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* Re: [9fans] off topic: full unicode support isn't easy
2013-07-24 5:09 ` erik quanstrom
@ 2013-07-24 21:38 ` Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
2013-07-24 23:55 ` erik quanstrom
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From: Steffen Daode Nurpmeso @ 2013-07-24 21:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net> wrote:
|0. uncode support isn't binary. one might reasonably support a subset.
But it is not that you are totally against supporting
decomposition that includes Korean ("Hangul Syllable
Decomposition", must be performed algorithmically)?
It's only missing yet.
|- erik
--steffen
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2013-07-24 21:38 ` Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
@ 2013-07-24 23:55 ` erik quanstrom
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From: erik quanstrom @ 2013-07-24 23:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Wed Jul 24 17:39:45 EDT 2013, sdaoden@gmail.com wrote:
> erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net> wrote:
> |0. uncode support isn't binary. one might reasonably support a subset.
>
> But it is not that you are totally against supporting
> decomposition that includes Korean ("Hangul Syllable
> Decomposition", must be performed algorithmically)?
> It's only missing yet.
i wasn't making any statements about particular languages,
or even endorsing supporting a subset.
but consider, file names in plan 9 support a subset of unicode.
they may not contain the codepoints u+00002f (/) or u+000000.
otherwise, a directory could contain the file entry "a/b" or "a/b\0c"
which could lead to confusion. many file servers expand
the frogs list to include codepoints < or ≤ u+00020 (space)
to prevent accidents.
http://xkcd.com/327/
- erik
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* Re: [9fans] off topic: full unicode support isn't easy
2013-07-24 2:59 [9fans] off topic: full unicode support isn't easy Aharon Robbins
2013-07-24 5:09 ` erik quanstrom
@ 2013-07-24 14:12 ` Kurt H Maier
2013-07-24 15:07 ` Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Kurt H Maier @ 2013-07-24 14:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 05:59:32AM +0300, Aharon Robbins wrote:
> FYI
>
> Creative usernames and Spotify account hijacking
> http://labs.spotify.com/2013/06/18/creative-usernames/
>
>
> Arnold
>
Seems the thrust of this article is more like "writing secure
public-facing authentication mechanisms relying on unvetted clownsourced
code isn't easy".
khm
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* Re: [9fans] off topic: full unicode support isn't easy
2013-07-24 14:12 ` Kurt H Maier
@ 2013-07-24 15:07 ` Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
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From: Steffen Daode Nurpmeso @ 2013-07-24 15:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
Kurt H Maier <khm-9@intma.in> wrote:
|On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 05:59:32AM +0300, Aharon Robbins wrote:
|> FYI
|>
|> Creative usernames and Spotify account hijacking
|> http://labs.spotify.com/2013/06/18/creative-usernames/
|>
|> Arnold
|
|Seems the thrust of this article is more like "writing secure
|public-facing authentication mechanisms relying on unvetted clownsourced
|code isn't easy".
I thought more in the direction you-are-fucked-up-if-you-trust-
anyone-but-yourself-if-not-today-then-tomorrow.
(It's Python...)
|khm
--steffen
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