From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 00:19:22 +0400 From: Oleg To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Message-ID: <20131215201922.GB6800@localhost> References: <20131215185916.GA6800@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 9c64f5aa-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 01:13:38PM -0600, Blake McBride wrote: > All of this talk sound like someone saying: imagine the hurdles of sending > a man to the moon..... how can man fly when his weight to strength ratio > is so poor.... No. This sounds like: why do much of useless work? To not lose plan9 benefits, we better will grow (or porting) many of useful and non-existent now software. Linux already has many good things, like a namespaces, sysfs and normal procfs (comparing to bsd). May be in the feature it will eliminate ioctl() and other ugly syscalls and introduce /dev/ttyctl + /dev/tty instead of this. But when will this happen? We have it all now in plan9.