From: Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] syscall 53
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 10:05:59 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140520170559.ECB2BB832@mail.bitblocks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 19 May 2014 17:34:24 EDT." <3A01CE35-B176-4A24-B3D4-24AB0874BB48@9srv.net>
On Mon, 19 May 2014 17:34:24 EDT Anthony Sorace <a@9srv.net> wrote:
>
> Ron wrote:
>
> > That said, the problems were due (IMHO) to a limitation in the
> > update mechanism, not to the inclusion of a new system call.
>
> This is true depending on how you define "update mechanism".
> A simple note from whoever made the decision to push the
> change out to the effect of "hey, we're going to add a new
> syscall, update your kernels before pulling new binaries" a
> while before the push would have been sufficient.
I never understood why binaries are pulled. Even on a lowly
RPi it takes 4 minutes to build everything (half if you cut
out gs). And the 386 binaries are useless on non-386
platforms!
Why not just separate binary and source distributions? Then
include a file in the source distribution to warn people about
changes such as this one (or the one about 21bit unicode) and
how to avoid painting yourself in a corner. The binary distr.
should have a provision for *only* updating the kernel and
insisting the user boots off of it before further updates can
proceed.
This is a solved problem; not exactly rocket science. The
harder problem is the social one.
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2014-05-18 4:34 ` lucio
2014-05-18 8:29 ` David du Colombier
2014-05-18 15:28 ` Jeff Sickel
2014-05-18 15:32 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2014-05-18 15:34 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2014-05-18 15:38 ` Jeff Sickel
2014-05-18 16:03 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2014-05-18 22:55 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2014-05-19 1:54 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-19 2:27 ` Jeff Sickel
2014-05-19 4:18 ` lucio
2014-05-19 12:50 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-19 14:01 ` lucio
2014-05-19 16:24 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-19 16:54 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-19 17:16 ` lucio
2014-05-19 17:22 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-19 17:13 ` lucio
2014-05-19 17:25 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-19 19:50 ` Bakul Shah
2014-05-19 19:59 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-19 20:54 ` ron minnich
2014-05-19 21:30 ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-19 21:41 ` ron minnich
2014-05-19 23:02 ` Kurt H Maier
2014-05-19 23:06 ` andrey mirtchovski
2014-05-19 23:12 ` Kurt H Maier
2014-05-19 23:17 ` andrey mirtchovski
2014-05-20 0:09 ` Jeff Sickel
2014-05-19 21:34 ` Anthony Sorace
2014-05-20 14:04 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-20 16:41 ` ron minnich
2014-05-20 17:14 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-20 18:32 ` Kurt H Maier
2014-05-20 19:49 ` ron minnich
2014-05-20 19:54 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-20 20:06 ` Kurt H Maier
2014-05-21 10:23 ` hiro
2014-05-20 20:33 ` Jeff Sickel
2014-05-21 1:37 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2014-05-21 15:40 ` lucio
2014-05-21 16:25 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-21 16:56 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2014-05-21 20:05 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2014-05-22 0:13 ` Bakul Shah
2014-05-22 3:25 ` [9fans] CMS/MMS (VCS/SCM/DSCM) [was: syscall 53] Jeff Sickel
2014-05-22 5:03 ` lucio
2014-05-22 5:07 ` lucio
2014-05-22 13:29 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-22 13:50 ` lucio
2014-05-22 5:11 ` Bakul Shah
2014-05-22 5:26 ` lucio
2014-05-22 12:57 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-22 13:43 ` lucio
2014-05-22 13:57 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-22 5:28 ` lucio
2014-05-22 5:36 ` lucio
2014-05-22 6:00 ` Bakul Shah
2014-05-22 6:18 ` lucio
2014-05-22 12:45 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-22 20:05 ` Bakul Shah
2014-05-22 20:11 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-23 20:07 ` Steve Simon
2014-05-22 9:52 ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2014-05-22 10:29 ` lucio
2014-05-22 10:46 ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2014-05-22 13:03 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-22 5:23 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2014-05-22 5:47 ` lucio
2014-05-22 12:49 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-22 7:49 ` Alex Jordan
2014-05-22 12:49 ` Riddler
2014-05-22 3:43 ` [9fans] syscall 53 Kurt H Maier
2014-05-22 5:12 ` lucio
2014-05-22 16:15 ` Kurt H Maier
2014-05-22 5:36 ` Bakul Shah
2014-05-22 10:50 ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2014-05-21 17:01 ` lucio
2014-05-21 17:41 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-21 19:08 ` lucio
2014-05-21 20:36 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-22 4:46 ` lucio
2014-05-22 13:18 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-22 13:39 ` lucio
2014-05-22 14:22 ` Riddler
2014-05-22 4:54 ` lucio
2014-05-22 13:07 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-21 1:21 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2014-05-21 15:36 ` lucio
2014-05-21 15:57 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-21 17:03 ` lucio
2014-05-21 16:50 ` Kurt H Maier
2014-05-21 18:02 ` hiro
2014-05-20 17:05 ` Bakul Shah [this message]
2014-05-20 17:28 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-19 17:26 ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-19 17:29 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-19 19:15 ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2014-05-19 19:44 ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-19 20:51 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-20 3:52 ` cinap_lenrek
2014-05-19 4:15 ` lucio
2014-05-18 0:34 ` erik quanstrom
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2014-05-17 14:56 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-17 10:23 goo
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