Re: [9fans] Plan9 Sources Repository

[Kurt H Maier <khm@sciops.net>]

Quoting dante <subscriptions@posteo.eu>:

> Usable, not bureaucratic.

Lots of people already use plan 9, therefore it is already
useable.

> And you don't need to invest work.

This seems like a load of garbage, since you're already demanding
that other people do work to support your preferences.

>       This all changed with Raspberry Pi.
>       There is a good, stable (in the medium/long term) platform
> that costs next to nothing for people to play with Plan9.

The Raspberry Pi is not universally considered a good platform, but
maybe that's a discussion for a different thread.

>       Yet, I have the impression that some potential users may be
> put off by the lack of polish in some other places (installer, ports
> etc.).
>       These potential users are also potential contributors.

Why would anyone want patches from someone unwilling to learn how this
system works?

>       More mass could mean:
>       - having a useable (like useable in 2014) Web browser

We already have operating systems that focus on this nonsense.  Why
must plan 9 also?

>       - having a useable (or having one at all) video/media player

see above

>       - having an SSH2 server (there is one in 9atom, but I didn't
> see it in the stock Plan9). Are you sure it doesn't have the
> Heartbleed?

Are *you*?  Do you even know what heartbleed is?  Why would we throw plan
9's existing communications standards in the trash?  SSH is wildly
inferior and makes tons of assumptions about the hosts that only really
apply to unix or unix-wannabes.

>       - having a useable driver for touch pads or
> 2-button-plus-wheel mice. I couldn't find a 3-button mouse these
> days, and  clicking on the wheel is awful.

Almost every mouse for sale to day has three buttons.  Click your scroll
wheel.

>       - up-to-date versions of modern programming languages. I miss
> Ruby a lot.

If you want Ruby, you know where to find it.

>       Wouldn't that be nice?

No.

It sounds like you're trying to rewire the entire plan 9 community with the
goal of turning plan 9 into ubuntu with a plan 9 theme.  Why the hell would
anyone who appreciates what plan 9 has to offer be interested in these
enormous steps backwards?  Why don't you just use the operating systems that
already support all this crap?


khm