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From: tlaronde@polynum.com
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] The developers of Plan9 think there was no point in coding in binary code three years ago as they did or make the Riga Technical University and University of Latvia?
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:23:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140813152310.GA253@polynum.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <81104d4b49947f2227634fafac8126ae@ladd.quanstro.net>

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:06:23AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote:
>
> > > I say this because about three years ago the Riga Technical University
> > > and University of Latvia continued teaching coding in binary code, ie,
> > > machine language.
>
> that's great!  very vew people understand how any machine really works.
> it might not be something one can readily apply to another system, but it
> will give you insights that can be reused in a lot of situation.

D.E. Knuth has kept a machine language (MIX, and MMIX for the new
version) to explain the algorithm in TAOCP. And there are some
interviews of him explaining why. Since even "schools" should teach
the principles and not the particular means (why and what has to
be done and not how to do it precisely with the software or language
du jour), it is not bad per se.

If a real language has to be used, I don't understand why C seemed
to have never caught up.  Because it is high level for control and
expression, and low level, near the machine, so it seems the best
compromise. I really started to program a minimum correctly once
I understood at least roughly how the machine and the system were
working. Before...

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-13 15:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-13 12:47 françai s
2014-08-13 14:32 ` Kurt H Maier
2014-08-13 15:06   ` erik quanstrom
2014-08-13 15:23     ` tlaronde [this message]
2014-08-13 17:48 ` Aleksandar Kuktin
2014-08-14 22:06   ` françai s
2014-08-14 22:30     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2014-08-14 22:30     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2014-08-20 16:53       ` françai s
2014-08-20 16:58         ` andrey mirtchovski
2014-08-20 18:40         ` erik quanstrom
2014-08-14 16:12 ` smiley
2014-08-14 20:49   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2014-08-14 21:36   ` françai s
2014-08-14 21:40     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2014-08-14 22:32       ` Lee Fallat
2014-08-20 18:57 sl

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