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From: Kurt H Maier <khm@sciops.net>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] shell functions
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 16:32:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140926163212.Horde.kuocVrN6KLWBJ9UPAJ0X3Q1@ssl.eumx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADSkJJWP=cdMxXFH_Oo04Cp2tTxfD6kTTeXx22N6BOBBmj3fLA@mail.gmail.com>

Quoting Russ Cox <rsc@swtch.com>:

> The right fix is to eliminate all possible interaction between (1) and (2).
> The first public fix focused instead on making (1) more robust, and guess
> what, it wasn't good enough and now there is a *second* CVE about this
> problem, and a *second* attempt at making (1) more robust. It is almost
> certainly too late to change CGI, but bash could be changed to just ignore
> CGI's variables (HTTP_*), and I hope that's what will eventually happen.
> I'm not holding my breath: I bet we'll see a cascade of patches trying to
> make this interaction "safe" instead of removing it.
>

This is a heartbreakingly web-centric view of these issues.  The real
problem is that bash was evaling stuff that had () { in it, and it is
very, very much not relegated to CGI use.  There are exploits in the
wild for both DHCP and ssh.

Obviously bash is an awful shell, but munging it for apache is not the
right answer to anything.

khm





  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-26 16:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAL0h+tWUCrwWoTSeLz+Kx1yqKwKqwDBZZbH7fLe-PWXjLSgWWw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-09-26 15:54 ` Russ Cox
2014-09-26 16:32   ` Kurt H Maier [this message]
2014-09-26 16:44     ` [9fans] " Skip Tavakkolian
2014-09-26 16:55       ` Kurt H Maier
2014-09-29 15:30     ` Russ Cox
2014-09-26 16:48   ` Bakul Shah
2014-09-27 14:40   ` Christian Neukirchen
2014-09-28  7:00     ` arisawa
2014-09-28  9:39       ` Richard Miller
2014-09-29 13:03         ` arisawa
2014-09-29 13:20           ` Charles Forsyth
2014-10-01  9:37             ` arisawa
2014-09-29 18:05           ` erik quanstrom

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