From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 13:43:18 -0800 From: Ori Bernstein To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Message-Id: <20150104134318.82faf89a14bb600725cf1ce9@eigenstate.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20150104005900.d146d56df0f6cdab930a0fc8@eigenstate.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] New Language [Myrddin] On Plan 9/amd64 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 393427ac-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Not yet. I haven't needed a 9p implementation yet; no file servers have bubbled to the top of my queue of code to write at this point, and I'm wary of writing APIs without at least some user in mind. On Sun, 04 Jan 2015 19:51:38 +0000 Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > interesting; i especially liked the "Why Myrddin" section :) > > i didn't see the obligatory 9P implementation in it; is there one? > > On Sun Jan 04 2015 at 1:07:47 AM Ori Bernstein wrote: > > > Myrddin is a language that I put together for fun, but which has developed > > delusions of usefulness. It's a complete reinvention of the wheel, from the > > ground up. Some of the major things you'll notice about it: > > > > - Type inference. Types are inferred across the whole program. > > - Algebraic data types. > > - And their friend, pattern matching. > > - Generics. > > - A package system. > > - Low level control over memory and such. > > - (Almost) no runtime library. > > - Self contained. > > > > For more details, you can look at the language website: > > > > http://eigenstate.org/myrddin > > > > Myrddin has been ported to Plan 9/amd64, tested on 9front. I haven't been > > able > > to get 9atom's amd64 kernel to boot on virtual hardware yet, so it hasn't > > been > > tested there. > > > > The compiler and libstd should build out of the box using the provided > > mkfiles. The libs used for mbld currently need either mbld or gnu make in > > order to build, or you can run myrbuild by hand. I've provided a script > > that > > does the latter. > > > > Almost all Plan 9 system calls are directly supported in libsys. > > As with Linux/Unix, only amd64 targets are supported at the moment. > > > > To bootstrap the code on Plan 9, the following script is provided: > > > > http://eigenstate.org/myrddin/getmyr.rc > > > > You can grab the script and run it as follows: > > > > ; hget http://eigenstate.org/myrddin/getmyr.rc > getmyr.rc > > ; chmod +x getmyr.rc > > ; getmyr.rc > > ...a lot of cloning and building happens... > > ; sam helloworld.myr > > > > For ease of hacking on Plan 9, I've added mercurial mirrors of the > > compiler and some libraries to bitbucket: > > > > http://bitbucket.com/oridb/mc > > http://bitbucket.com/oridb/libbio > > http://bitbucket.com/oridb/libregex > > http://bitbucket.com/oridb/libcryptohash > > http://bitbucket.com/oridb/libdate > > http://bitbucket.com/oridb/mbld > > > > There are a number of TODOs, of course: > > > > - Libdate needs to learn how to parse Plan 9 timezone files. > > - Libstd needs to get a smarter allocator for large allocations. > > - More libraries: lib9p, libdraw, etc... all need to be written. > > - A bit more thought needs to be given nicer, portable APIs. > > - More Plan 9 integration. > > > > And general work to get Myrddin to the point of day to day usability, > > int terms of faster binaries, more libraries, and so on. > > > > Still, if anyone finds this interesting/useful -- have at it. If you > > manage to do something neat, let me know! > > > > -- > > Ori Bernstein > > > > -- Ori Bernstein