From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 20:23:29 -0400 From: Kurt H Maier To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Message-ID: <20160331002329.GB91655@wopr.sciops.net> References: <8637r75ycs.fsf@cmarib.ramside> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8637r75ycs.fsf@cmarib.ramside> Subject: Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook Topicbox-Message-UUID: 8b7bf044-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 11:40:03PM +0000, cigar562hfsp952fans@icebubble.org wrote: > Greetings, 9fans! > Your post advocates a (x) technical ( ) legislative ( ) market-based ( ) vigilante approach to social networking. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.) ( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses (x) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money (x) It is defenseless against brute force attacks (x) Users of Twitter will not put up with it (x) Facebook will not put up with it ( ) The police will not put up with it (x) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once ( ) Many users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers ( ) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business Specifically, your plan fails to account for ( ) Laws expressly prohibiting it (x) Lack of centrally controlling authority for social networking (x) Open relays in foreign countries (x) Asshats ( ) Jurisdictional problems ( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of communications (x) Huge existing software investment in Facebook (x) Susceptibility of protocols other than HTTP to attack ( ) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes (x) Extreme profitability of Facebook (x) Joe jobs and/or identity theft (x) Technically illiterate politicians (x) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with Twitter ( ) Outlook and the following philosophical objections may also apply: (x) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever been shown practical ( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable ( ) Blacklists suck ( ) Whitelists suck ( ) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored (x) Why should we have to trust you and your servers? ( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses ( ) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem ( ) I don't want the government reading my email ( ) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough Furthermore, this is what I think about you: ( ) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work. (x) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it. ( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down! hth, khm