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From: Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] SHA-1 collision and venti
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 11:46:18 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170226194618.E3E5F124AEA5@mail.bitblocks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 26 Feb 2017 18:25:34 GMT." <CAOw7k5hfR7T1RSuGMQ3i1kd72yr60LXXgD5amuBd9E9gEm_GAw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 18:25:34 GMT Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's curious that svn "corrupts" the repository, if that's really what they
> mean, when two leaf files collide.
> An index or directory colliding with a file would be more understandable.

The only known collision is for files. I suspect this was seen
as a "can't happen" event so may be dealing with the error was
not done right. You can read the report:
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168774

> > Venti detects a collision on the attempt to write the second copy if that
> > differs from the earlier one stored (error "store collision"). The earlier
> > copy is untouched (venti anyway is write-once per score).

Good to know at least it /detects/ score collisions.

The concern would be that one of two colliding files *can't*
be archived and it will be lost.  We only have one example
so it is not a big deal right now.

> > Fossil doesn't handle it well, because it turns up during archiving and
> > ends up marking the archive attempt as failed, but it will try again.
> > Meanwhile, you've got time to change fossil to check the venti error
> > return for "score collision" and announce it, loudly, discarding the second
> > one.

Hopefully the two versions can co-exist on fossil?

> > Obviously if you care about something, make sure your version is in venti
> > first! Chances are that collisions arise from naughty people tricking you
> > later. Probably.

Or may be you are doing research on collsions?!



  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-26 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-26 17:25 Bakul Shah
2017-02-26 17:30 ` Jules Merit
2017-02-26 18:29   ` Charles Forsyth
2017-02-26 18:16 ` Charles Forsyth
2017-02-26 18:25   ` Charles Forsyth
2017-02-26 19:46     ` Bakul Shah [this message]
2017-02-26 21:02       ` Kim Shrier
2017-02-27 15:46         ` Dave MacFarlane
2017-02-27 16:47           ` Charles Forsyth
2017-02-27 17:07             ` Charles Forsyth
2017-02-27 17:28               ` Bakul Shah
2017-02-27 18:14                 ` hiro
2017-02-27 18:20                   ` Bakul Shah
2017-02-27 18:30                 ` Charles Forsyth
2017-02-27 19:02                   ` Charles Forsyth
2017-02-27 20:05                     ` cinap_lenrek
2017-02-27 20:14                     ` Bakul Shah
2017-02-27 21:12                       ` Riddler
2017-02-27 22:20                         ` Charles Forsyth
2017-03-01 12:21                           ` erik quanstrom
2017-03-01 12:35                             ` David du Colombier
2017-02-27 19:34                 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2017-02-26 18:48   ` Bakul Shah
2017-02-26 19:57     ` Charles Forsyth
2017-02-26 20:06       ` Jadon Bennett
2017-02-26 20:16       ` Bakul Shah
2017-02-28 15:47 Darren Wise

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