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From: Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Is fossil/venti file system a good choice for SSD?
Date: Sat,  3 Feb 2018 12:10:55 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180203201110.75A91156E80B@mail.bitblocks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 03 Feb 2018 18:49:50 +0000." <CACo5X5j1v9cAoxqxEG=1OyfiRdUYFjpfN5dh9F+NK0=WGPAKSw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, 03 Feb 2018 18:49:50 +0000 "Digby R.S. Tarvin" <digbyt42@gmail.com> wrote:
Digby R.S. Tarvin writes:
> 
> My experience of running normal (read mostly) Linux filesystems on solid
> state media is that SSD is more robust but far less reliable than rotating
> media.
> 
> MTBF for rotating media for me has been around 10 years. MTBF for SSD has
> been about 2. And the SSD always seems to fail catastrophically - appearing
> to work fine one day, then after an inexplicable crash, half the media is
> unreadable. I assume this is something to do with the wear leveling, which
> successfully gets most of the blocks to wear out at the same time with no
> warning. If I reformat and reload the SSD to correct all the mysterious
> corruptions, it last a few weeks, then does the same thing again.

MTTF doesn't make much sense for SSDs. A 1TB SSD I bought a
couple years ago has a rating of 300 TB written, an MTBF of 2M
hours and a 10 year warranty. It can do over 500MB/s of
sequential writes. If I average 9.5MB/s writes, it will last
year. If I continuoulsy write 100MB/s, it will last under 35
days. In contrast the life of an HDD depends on how long it
has been spinning, seeks, temperature and load/unloads. A disk
with 5 year warraty will likely last 5 years even if you write
100MB/s continuously.

And consumer HDSC cards such as the ones used in cameras and
Raspi are much much worse.

In practice an SSD will last much longer than a HDD since
average write rates are not high for the typical things people
do.



  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-03 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-03  9:39 lchg
2018-02-03 10:54 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2018-02-03 12:45 ` Steve Simon
2018-02-03 13:25   ` hiro
2018-02-03 14:53     ` Steve Simon
2018-02-03 16:53       ` hiro
2018-02-03 18:49         ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-02-03 20:10           ` Bakul Shah [this message]
2018-02-03 21:46             ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-02-03 23:46               ` Bakul Shah
2018-02-04  9:45                 ` [9fans] RasPi why? Ethan Grammatikidis
2018-02-04 15:05                   ` Rui Carmo
2018-02-04 16:36                   ` Steve Simon
2018-02-04 21:00                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-02-04 21:55                   ` Bakul Shah
2018-02-04 22:23                     ` hiro
2018-02-04 23:46                   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2018-02-04 23:52                     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-02-05  9:22                     ` hiro
2018-02-05  9:27                       ` Rui Carmo
2018-02-05  9:48                         ` hiro
2018-02-05  9:49                           ` hiro
2018-02-04 10:02                 ` [9fans] Is fossil/venti file system a good choice for SSD? hiro
2018-02-04 23:46                   ` Bakul Shah
2018-02-05  8:50                     ` hiro
2018-02-04  9:52               ` hiro
2018-02-04 16:15                 ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-02-04 21:46                   ` hiro
2018-02-04 22:47                     ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-02-05  9:54                       ` hiro
2018-02-04  9:49           ` hiro
2018-02-04 22:22 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen

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