From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 08:44:44 +0530 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: 9fans@9fans.net Message-ID: <20181003031444.vne4yys5bnlpoies@v520.kathe.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) Subject: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager? Topicbox-Message-UUID: e56e214e-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 did plan 9 have any pager? or did every text file to be read had to be opened in acme or a similar tool? btw, is there any pager under plan9port? didn't know what to search for, hence couldn't find any. thanks, ~mayuresh From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181003031444.vne4yys5bnlpoies@v520.kathe.in> In-Reply-To: <20181003031444.vne4yys5bnlpoies@v520.kathe.in> From: Skip Tavakkolian Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 20:20:48 -0700 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000008a26d05774a8713" Subject: Re: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager? Topicbox-Message-UUID: e5ac9bfe-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --00000000000008a26d05774a8713 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the shell is running in, then cat the file. On Tue, Oct 2, 2018, 8:15 PM Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > did plan 9 have any pager? or did every text file to be read had to be > opened in acme or a similar tool? > > btw, is there any pager under plan9port? didn't know what to search for, > hence couldn't find any. > > thanks, > > ~mayuresh > > > --00000000000008a26d05774a8713 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the shell is r= unning in, then cat the file.


On Tue, Oct 2, 2018, 8:15 PM Mayuresh K= athe <mayuresh@kathe.in> wro= te:
did plan 9 have any pager? or d= id every text file to be read had to be
opened in acme or a similar tool?

btw, is there any pager under plan9port? didn't know what to search for= ,
hence couldn't find any.

thanks,

~mayuresh


--00000000000008a26d05774a8713-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181003031444.vne4yys5bnlpoies@v520.kathe.in> In-Reply-To: From: Nick Owens Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 20:23:47 -0700 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager? Topicbox-Message-UUID: e605319c-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 the pager is p(1). On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 8:22 PM Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the shell is running in, then cat the file. > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018, 8:15 PM Mayuresh Kathe wrote: >> >> did plan 9 have any pager? or did every text file to be read had to be >> opened in acme or a similar tool? >> >> btw, is there any pager under plan9port? didn't know what to search for, >> hence couldn't find any. >> >> thanks, >> >> ~mayuresh >> >> From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181003031444.vne4yys5bnlpoies@v520.kathe.in> In-Reply-To: <20181003031444.vne4yys5bnlpoies@v520.kathe.in> From: Alexander Kapshuk Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 06:24:23 +0300 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager? Topicbox-Message-UUID: e6266272-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 6:16 AM Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > did plan 9 have any pager? or did every text file to be read had to be > opened in acme or a similar tool? > > btw, is there any pager under plan9port? didn't know what to search for, > hence couldn't find any. > > thanks, > > ~mayuresh > > https://9p.io/magic/man2html/1/p https://9p.io/magic/man2html/1/cat https://9p.io/magic/man2html/1/page From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 10:01:37 +0530 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Message-ID: <20181003043136.n66yl7fo3p274gik@v520.kathe.in> References: <20181003031444.vne4yys5bnlpoies@v520.kathe.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) Subject: Re: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager? Topicbox-Message-UUID: e6319a70-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 thanks nick. On Tue, Oct 02, 2018 at 08:23:47PM -0700, Nick Owens wrote: > the pager is p(1). > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 8:22 PM Skip Tavakkolian > wrote: > > > > Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the shell is running in, then cat the file. > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018, 8:15 PM Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > >> > >> did plan 9 have any pager? or did every text file to be read had to be > >> opened in acme or a similar tool? > >> > >> btw, is there any pager under plan9port? didn't know what to search for, > >> hence couldn't find any. > >> > >> thanks, > >> > >> ~mayuresh > >> > >> > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181003031444.vne4yys5bnlpoies@v520.kathe.in> <20181003043136.n66yl7fo3p274gik@v520.kathe.in> In-Reply-To: <20181003043136.n66yl7fo3p274gik@v520.kathe.in> From: Chris McGee Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 09:06:13 -0400 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a3c338057752b432" Subject: Re: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager? Topicbox-Message-UUID: e68831d2-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --000000000000a3c338057752b432 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I like how the pager (page) actually shows a page on the screen with the text you pipe to it. There's some real truth in the name. On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 12:34 AM Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > thanks nick. > > On Tue, Oct 02, 2018 at 08:23:47PM -0700, Nick Owens wrote: > > the pager is p(1). > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 8:22 PM Skip Tavakkolian > > wrote: > > > > > > Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the shell is running in, > then cat the file. > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018, 8:15 PM Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > >> > > >> did plan 9 have any pager? or did every text file to be read had to be > > >> opened in acme or a similar tool? > > >> > > >> btw, is there any pager under plan9port? didn't know what to search > for, > > >> hence couldn't find any. > > >> > > >> thanks, > > >> > > >> ~mayuresh > > >> > > >> > > > > --000000000000a3c338057752b432 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I like how the pager (page) actually shows a page on the s= creen with the text you pipe to it. There's some real truth in the name= .

On Wed, Oct 3, 2= 018 at 12:34 AM Mayuresh Kathe <may= uresh@kathe.in> wrote:
thank= s nick.

On Tue, Oct 02, 2018 at 08:23:47PM -0700, Nick Owens wrote:
> the pager is p(1).
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 8:22 PM Skip Tavakkolian
> <sk= ip.tavakkolian@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the shell is running i= n, then cat the file.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018, 8:15 PM Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh@kathe.in> wrote:
> >>
> >> did plan 9 have any pager? or did every text file to be read = had to be
> >> opened in acme or a similar tool?
> >>
> >> btw, is there any pager under plan9port? didn't know what= to search for,
> >> hence couldn't find any.
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >>
> >> ~mayuresh
> >>
> >>
>

--000000000000a3c338057752b432-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-Id: <1538637615.2441252.1530298368.01587CAA@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Ethan Gardener To: 9fans@9fans.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" In-Reply-To: References: <20181003031444.vne4yys5bnlpoies@v520.kathe.in> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 08:20:15 +0100 Subject: Re: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager? Topicbox-Message-UUID: e6c5df5a-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, at 4:20 AM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the shell is running in, then cat the file. This is my preferred option too. Also works in 9term. I liked to play MUDs this way, but without color I missed stuff. -- Progress might have been all right once, but it has gone on too long -- Ogden Nash From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181003031444.vne4yys5bnlpoies@v520.kathe.in> <1538637615.2441252.1530298368.01587CAA@webmail.messagingengine.com> In-Reply-To: <1538637615.2441252.1530298368.01587CAA@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Rudolf Sykora Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 10:29:57 +0200 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager? Topicbox-Message-UUID: e6de5f12-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 09:22, Ethan Gardener wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, at 4:20 AM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the shell is running in, then cat the file. > > This is my preferred option too. Also works in 9term. I liked to play MUDs this way, but without color I missed stuff. This has the problem of inability to search within the text, e.g. when reading a man page. On the other hand, a pager should perhaps be only a pager. When one needs to do searching, something like 'less' on unixes is far more convenient for me. Ruda From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-Id: <1538643375.2467185.1530367032.73098586@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Ethan Gardener To: 9fans@9fans.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 09:56:15 +0100 References: <20181003031444.vne4yys5bnlpoies@v520.kathe.in> <1538637615.2441252.1530298368.01587CAA@webmail.messagingengine.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager? Topicbox-Message-UUID: e6fa3886-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Thu, Oct 4, 2018, at 9:29 AM, Rudolf Sykora wrote: > On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 09:22, Ethan Gardener wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, at 4:20 AM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > > Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the shell is running in, then cat the file. > > > > This is my preferred option too. Also works in 9term. I liked to play MUDs this way, but without color I missed stuff. > > This has the problem of inability to search within the text, > e.g. when reading a man page. 'look' has been added to the button-2 menu in 9front. It's limited, but better than nothing. > On the other hand, a pager should perhaps be only a pager. > > When one needs to do searching, something like 'less' on unixes > is far more convenient for me. Less's features help somewhat, but I still prefer short manual pages. It's not like you can search for sequences of words in Less, thanks to the practice of replacing arbitrary spaces with newlines. Or can you? The last time I tried was probably more than a decade ago. Anyway, there is still hyphenation, which Less still couldn't deal with a few months ago. This separation of formatting from display is bad, as far as I'm concerned. -- Progress might have been all right once, but it has gone on too long -- Ogden Nash From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181003031444.vne4yys5bnlpoies@v520.kathe.in> <1538637615.2441252.1530298368.01587CAA@webmail.messagingengine.com> In-Reply-To: From: Skip Tavakkolian Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 02:00:27 -0700 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008025d8057763634a" Subject: Re: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager? Topicbox-Message-UUID: e700d83a-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --0000000000008025d8057763634a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" grep pattern /dev/text # a.k.a /dev/wsys/`{read /dev/winid}^/text On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 1:30 AM Rudolf Sykora wrote: > On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 09:22, Ethan Gardener wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, at 4:20 AM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > > Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the shell is running in, > then cat the file. > > > > This is my preferred option too. Also works in 9term. I liked to play > MUDs this way, but without color I missed stuff. > > This has the problem of inability to search within the text, > e.g. when reading a man page. > > On the other hand, a pager should perhaps be only a pager. > > When one needs to do searching, something like 'less' on unixes > is far more convenient for me. > > Ruda > > --0000000000008025d8057763634a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
grep pattern /dev/text # a.k.a=C2=A0/dev/= wsys/`{read /dev/winid}^/text


On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 1:30 AM Rudolf Sykora &= lt;rudolf.sykora@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
On Thu= , 4 Oct 2018 at 09:22, Ethan Gardener <eekee57@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, at 4:20 AM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
> > Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the shell is running i= n, then cat the file.
>
> This is my preferred option too.=C2=A0 Also works in 9term.=C2=A0 I li= ked to play MUDs this way, but without color I missed stuff.

This has the problem of inability to search within the text,
e.g. when reading a man page.

On the other hand, a pager should perhaps be only a pager.

When one needs to do searching, something like 'less' on unixes
is far more convenient for me.

Ruda

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