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[108.51.182.148]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 83sm2082562qkd.26.2019.11.24.09.34.54 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 24 Nov 2019 09:34:54 -0800 (PST) From: "David L. Craig" X-Google-Original-From: "David L. Craig" Received: from dlc by able.home with local (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1iYvmf-0000ZS-FP; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 17:34:53 +0000 Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 17:34:53 +0000 To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Cc: 9fans@hamnavoe.com Subject: Re: [9fans] Is the vanilla Plan 9 still alive? Message-ID: <20191124173453.GA527@able.home> References: <0074AD32FE84CB7602D40AEE206BCCD9@eigenstate.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0074AD32FE84CB7602D40AEE206BCCD9@eigenstate.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.2 (2019-09-21) Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: bebae5fc-0ee0-11ea-bda4-bb77c76074b8 --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 19Nov24:0830-0800, ori@eigenstate.org wrote: > >> The most official looking site for vanilla plan9 is 9p.io. It > >> doesn't show any sign of activity since 2015. > >=20 > > Please look more closely: > >=20 > > cpu% srv -n 9p.io sources /n/sources >=20 > Usually, that's not what people mean when they > say 'site'. >=20 > It's good to see patches being posted, but for > someone who is interested in experimenting with > plan 9 for the first time, it's not clear that > these exist, let alone which are important. >=20 > Actually, you know what, I should put my money > where my mouth is. Would there be objections to > me going through and fixing the links in the > wiki so they point to 9p.io? >=20 > Is there anyone who would be comfortable explaining > to me exactly the relationship between 9p.io and > 9legacy, as well as how people are expected to use > the two, so that I can put that into the wiki? >=20 > Is there anywhere that people would be comfortable > blessing as a source for building new ISO images, > to put behind the download link, with the accepted > patches integrated? >=20 > (Yes, I do use 9front, but I'm not religious. I'd > be happy to take some time to improve labs, too. > I also hate people who complain without doing the > work to improve things.) >=20 > > "Usable" is a function of who's doing the using. > > I use the Labs version every day and it does what > > I need. >=20 > The impression I got was that many users (in the > 9front world, at least) have a system patched > to their desires, and don't run things fully > vanilla, direct from the ISO. Over five years ago I was compelled to stop work on my cookbook for newbies to implement a working Plan 9 virtual server with a drawterm interface on a GNU/Linux platform supporting virtual machines. I have received one email =66rom someone who successfully got started thereby and it's still available at http://dlcusa.net/vp9cb-9pio, but after reading this thread, I wonder if it's worth the effort to get back to it eventually and finish the job. --=20 May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave_Craig______________________________________________ "So the universe is not quite as you thought it was. You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then. 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