From: tlaronde@polynum.com
To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] GSoC 2021 project ideas (WAS: Re: Plan 9 Applying to GSoC 2021)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 09:29:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210202082918.GA601@polynum.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <867dns9s0l.fsf@cmarib.ramside>
Hello,
On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 07:16:58AM +0000, cigar562hfsp952fans@icebubble.org wrote:
> Anthony Sorace <a@9srv.net> writes:
>
> > Hello! After a few years away, we?ll be applying to Google?s Summer of Code program again this year.
>
> ...
>
> > 1. Project ideas. One of the key parts of the application is the
> > project ideas page. If you?ve got ideas that seem like they?d be a
>
> Plan 9-related:
>
> (1) Porting the Plan 9 kernel to a microkernel architecture, such as
> Mach. This would give Plan 9 instant access to the whole range of
> hardware supported by the underlying microkernel.
>
No. One should re-read the initial papers about Plan9. When Plan9 was
designed, microkernels were "fashionable". If one reads carefully the
paper, it's clear that there is a pun intended against microkernels that
didn't achieve what they were supposed to do---disastrous efficiency
leading to the rewrite of the microkernels as assembly---a very low
signal/noise ratio. And a hint: "micro" kernels are usually _huge_, a
clear sign that something went wrong.
As drivers are concerned, there was once a kit supposed to give a wide
range of kernels, drivers code---I don't know where it is now; I suppose
it has vanished. And now probably UEFI drivers is a "better than nothing"
solution.
My 2 cents,
--
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2021-01-29 19:23 [9fans] Plan 9 Applying to GSoC 2021 Anthony Sorace
2021-02-01 0:31 ` ~vidak
2021-02-01 9:35 ` sirjofri
2021-02-01 11:07 ` svaderaa
2021-02-01 11:26 ` Bakul Shah
2021-02-02 1:15 ` raingloom
2021-02-01 7:16 ` [9fans] GSoC 2021 project ideas (WAS: Re: Plan 9 Applying to GSoC 2021) cigar562hfsp952fans
2021-02-01 20:46 ` Steve Simon
2021-02-03 14:14 ` Ethan Gardener
2021-02-01 21:47 ` [9fans] GSoC 2021 project ideas sirjofri
2021-02-03 14:07 ` Ethan Gardener
2021-08-06 16:25 ` Jack Johnson
2021-08-19 21:06 ` unobe
2021-09-20 4:52 ` [9fans] " cigar562hfsp952fans
2021-09-20 5:08 ` Conor Williams
2021-09-20 5:11 ` vidak
2021-09-20 15:02 ` ori
2021-09-20 5:43 ` [9fans] " Dave Eckhardt
2021-09-20 7:51 ` Ethan Gardener
2021-09-20 8:23 ` hiro
2021-09-20 8:37 ` Conor Williams
2021-09-20 8:39 ` Conor Williams
2021-09-20 8:45 ` Conor Williams
2021-09-20 8:52 ` Conor Williams
2021-09-20 8:58 ` Conor Williams
2021-09-20 11:06 ` Conor Williams
2021-09-21 9:01 ` Ethan Gardener
2021-09-20 11:05 ` sirjofri
2021-09-20 11:08 ` Conor Williams
2021-09-20 14:01 ` sirjofri
2021-09-21 9:25 ` Ethan Gardener
2021-02-02 8:29 ` tlaronde [this message]
2021-02-03 15:07 ` [9fans] GSoC 2021 project ideas (WAS: Re: Plan 9 Applying to GSoC 2021) Ethan Gardener
2021-01-19 11:08 ` pouya+lists.9fans
2021-02-03 18:58 ` Ethan Gardener
2021-02-06 2:17 ` David Arroyo
2021-02-03 18:26 ` ori
2021-02-03 23:31 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2021-02-05 16:42 ` Ethan Gardener
2021-02-07 22:59 ` [9fans] Re: GSoC 2021 project ideas cigar562hfsp952fans
2021-02-09 0:26 ` Steve Simon
2021-02-09 1:59 ` [9fans] " Jeff Sickel
2021-02-09 0:34 ` [9fans] " Ethan Gardener
2021-02-02 5:30 ` [9fans] Plan 9 Applying to GSoC 2021 ori
2021-02-02 10:40 ` [9fans] Project idea (was: Plan 9 Applying to GSoC 2021) sirjofri
2021-02-02 16:07 ` [9fans] Re: Plan 9 Applying to GSoC 2021 Jeff Sickel
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