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From: raingloom <raingloom@riseup.net>
To: mycroftiv 9gridchan <mycroftiv@sphericalharmony.com>
Cc: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Sponsoring a new Intro book by the Flan 9 Poundation
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 05:35:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220127053516.4a9022f6@riseup.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANk5qp04gOwsuSDnYZX=R2hq=f3x9QEzVun9hp+W4MSGh=KM=A@mail.gmail.com>

(this sat in my queue for a few days, I originally wrote it when there
were just 1-2 replies, then saw Russ's message and I held off, but it
looks like the thread is still going, so I might as well fix it
up a bit and send it.)

On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 05:12:10 -0600
mycroftiv 9gridchan <mycroftiv@sphericalharmony.com> wrote:

> Hi 9fans, Got some new ideas im excited about right now.
> Apparently the author of the well-known 'intro to OS abstractions'
> book has political views that are not cool and support oppression
> maybe I have heard secondhand.
> We need a better book to introduce people to 9.
> I'd like to see something created that talks about all forms of 9 and
> of the ANTS variant especially since if im bipolar and spending my
> money to try to help plan 9, im obviously also gonna be hyping my
> stuff along with trying to fight against right wing ideas.
> The cause to make plan 9 an accepting welcoming community for all
> humans requires good information resources and support.
> The funny-named organization I just thought up, The Flan 9 Poundation,
> offers a bounty from me personally of at least $200 for producing this
> content. The name is an obvious namespace pun. We want to work in a
> friendly way with everyone but we also want good stuff and peace and
> support for minority trans disabled mentally wacked out
> counterculture.
> 
> Peace and love and lets make Plan 9 amazing and full of rainbow love,
> JenBen

I like the idea of making Plan 9 more accepting, the techbro saturation
is too high here. I say that as someone who could rightly be classified
as such.
Not sure if rewriting the whole book just to put a different name on
the cover is the best way to go about it. Making a better book
definitely sounds good though.

Side note: technology is political. Deal with it. Software that helps
no one is of no use and who you choose to help with software and count
as a stakeholder (which includes but is not limited to users) is an
inherently political question. Ignoring that just means that you prefer
the status quo.

At the very least with more inclusivity games/memo should be easier to
play in 10 years. ;)

Side note 2: I'd really like to see a bigger emphasis on accessibility
in Plan 9 software. Keyboard navigation would be a good step forward. I
think high contrast and font sizing are already taken care of, more or
less. Internationalization would be cool to support too.
I hope I'm not too much of an SJW heretic for saying that people with
imperfect motor skills (or even just different hardware) should still
be able to use computers. :)
If someone wants to reply that those people should implement those
features themselves, I recommend that they think for 2 seconds first.

As for the book, I haven't been very active in Plan 9 in a while, but
I'm up for proofreading and writing about whatever parts of Plan 9 I do
know. I can also do some illustrations in Blender.
I also volunteer my notes for possible inclusion, I have a pretty
detailed shared 9p root tutorial. It's currently not publicly available
since I took down my wiki, but I can send it here.

Peace and love. UwU

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-27  4:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-24 11:12 mycroftiv 9gridchan
2022-01-24 12:02 ` Alexandr Babic
2022-01-24 12:13   ` hiro
2022-01-24 12:38     ` Duke Normandin
2022-01-24 14:42       ` Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir
2022-01-24 16:43         ` Duke Normandin
2022-01-24 17:40       ` Kurt H Maier via 9fans
2022-01-24 17:49         ` Duke Normandin
2022-01-24 17:53           ` Pablo Tesari
2022-01-24 17:56             ` Clout Tolstoy
2022-01-24 18:06               ` Thaddeus Woskowiak
2022-01-24 18:06                 ` Thaddeus Woskowiak
2022-01-24 17:55         ` Re[2]: " Alexandr Babic
2022-01-24 18:02           ` Kurt H Maier via 9fans
2022-01-24 18:07             ` Jeremy Jackins
2022-01-24 18:18               ` Lucas Francesco
2022-01-24 18:20             ` Keith Gibbs
2022-01-24 18:33               ` Re[2]: " Alexandr Babic
2022-01-24 18:46                 ` Eli Cohen
2022-01-24 18:47                 ` Keith Gibbs
2022-01-24 12:45 ` Steve Simon
2022-01-24 12:49   ` Federico Benavento
2022-01-24 12:56     ` Alexandr Babic
2022-01-24 18:18 ` [9fans] Sponsoring a new Intro book by the Flan 9 Poundationy adr
2022-01-24 23:48   ` hiro
2022-01-25  0:30     ` [9fans] Sponsoring a new Intro book by the Flan 9 Poundation adr
2022-01-25  0:57       ` hiro
2022-01-25  4:31         ` Alexandr Babic
2022-01-25  5:36     ` [9fans] Sponsoring a new Intro book by the Flan 9 Poundationy Lucio De Re
2022-01-25  7:23       ` [9fans] Sponsoring a new Intro book by the Flan 9 Poundation adr
2022-01-25  7:26         ` Alexandr Babic
2022-01-25  7:32         ` Keith Gibbs
2022-01-25  7:38           ` Alexandr Babic
2022-01-25  8:58         ` hiro
2022-01-25 12:26           ` Wes Kussmaul
2022-01-25 15:39             ` Clout Tolstoy
2022-01-25 18:17               ` hiro
2022-01-25 19:44                 ` Clout Tolstoy
2022-01-25 20:26                   ` [9fans] War And Peace Wes Kussmaul
2022-01-28 21:18         ` [9fans] Sponsoring a new Intro book by the Flan 9 Poundation: adr
2022-01-28 21:37           ` hiro
2022-01-24 20:58 ` [9fans] Sponsoring a new Intro book by the Flan 9 Poundation Marshall Conover
2022-01-24 21:12   ` Russ Cox
2022-01-27  4:35 ` raingloom [this message]
2022-01-27 10:24   ` Giacomo Tesio
2022-01-30  2:56     ` raingloom
2022-01-27 16:11   ` ori
2022-01-27 22:45     ` hiro
2022-01-27 21:02   ` hiro
2022-01-27 21:43     ` Wes Kussmaul
2022-01-27 21:48     ` ori
2022-01-27 22:09     ` Giacomo Tesio

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