[9fans] Mail with runbox

[9fans] Mail with runbox

[plan6]

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Hello community :)

Need some help. But first, my boring story.

I've been using 9front for about 5 years and it's my primary OS, even at
work (I 'vncv' other laptops when I need something 9front can't afford).
I'm absolutely not a programmer or anything, just a very low level IT
working in education.

Like said in the meme from "the office", "I understand NOTHING" from the
emails I read everyday from the 9front community, but I read them anyway
and learn things sometimes and I am very grateful for that.

I like 9front the way it is and don't and won't never add or substract
anything from it.
I use zuke for music (thanks Sigrid), Mail for email, IRC to chat with
friends.
Acme and Sam, of course and Sigrid's ext4srv to connect to my second
harddrive (linux) on a lenovo x230 I carry everywhere with the most ugly
tplink wifi module scratched on it with velcro (I'm not good enough to
install firmwares).

For like 2 or 3 years, I was unable to send emails from 9front for 2
reasons. First, Runbox (my email provider) doesn't use imap.runbox.com and
smtp.runbox.com but only mail.runbox.com and the sha key is the same for
imap and smtp (so no error message the first time you send an email).
Secondo, Runbox doesn't allow aliases for the sender and force the use of
the primary email. Using the "From: myrealaddress" at the beginning of the
email did the trick.

I didn't try to modify remotemail or anything, just because I didn't need
to (If it ain't broken, don't fix it) and didn't unterstood why I should.

But now, it doesn't work anymore (see the screenshot). I guess it's because
the From:myrealaddress isn't catched by Runbox and the sender is perceived
as being Glenda.

I'm sure the solution is very simple, like just adding something to a conf
file to force the primary email and I hope someone will feel compassionate
enough to help.

Just to justify the fact that I'm not lazy but just incompetent, remember
me as plan6, the guy who "copy-pasted" 900 irc lines on cat-v a few months
ago (I just wanted to save the chat), or the one who asked why sysupdating
9front took hours (because I didn't allow scrolling in the terminal).

Anyway, thanks for reading. I am really proud and happy to be part of the
9front community, even if I'm on the periphery.

screenshot: https://mega.nz/file/kwA0hahZ#O-XfJpKoEuj5cZtlYi-bp_--cYSqY0nXfjetgTAI8NA

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Re: [9fans] Mail with runbox

[Romano]

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 plan6@room3420.net: I don't know if you already got help with this elsewhere and it's resolved, but I was able to see your screenshot after downloading it on my laptop.

So it’s not an error with the tls cert. Yours looks to be an error produced by /mail/lib/validateaddress, and as you thought, for ‘glenda’. If it’s supposed to be gregmorton@runbox.com, I think I’d first see why the smtp is failing with a remote mail call. I know you said you didn’t get into the nitty-gritty, but if I were you, I’d put some diagnostic lines in /mail/lib/remotemail to see what $1 etc. are, and to see what upasname is. For example, I’ve added something like:
    echo `{date} ‘upasname=‘^$upasname args: $* >> /sys/log/remotemail
around the top to see what upasname is set to, and the args being passed in. Then you can also test to see what $fd is being set to further on to determine if that is what you expect, and finally test the upas/smtp call separately with the values that are set. It might be as simple as just updating the sender= assignment at the top of /mail/lib/remotemail, in your case.

On Sat, Jun 7, 2025, at 4:44 PM, Romano wrote:
> I'm on my cell phone and can't see the image but if it was working and then stopped check the logs: /sys/log/smtpd IIRC. I had something like that happen and I just needed to update the cert.l, as my provider's cert had changed.
> 
> On Sat, Jun 7, 2025, at 8:04 AM, plan6@room3420.net wrote:
>> Hello community :)
>> 
>> Need some help. But first, my boring story.
>> 
>> I've been using 9front for about 5 years and it's my primary OS, even at
>> work (I 'vncv' other laptops when I need something 9front can't afford).
>> I'm absolutely not a programmer or anything, just a very low level IT
>> working in education.
>> 
>> Like said in the meme from "the office", "I understand NOTHING" from the
>> emails I read everyday from the 9front community, but I read them anyway
>> and learn things sometimes and I am very grateful for that.
>> 
>> I like 9front the way it is and don't and won't never add or substract
>> anything from it.
>> I use zuke for music (thanks Sigrid), Mail for email, IRC to chat with
>> friends.
>> Acme and Sam, of course and Sigrid's ext4srv to connect to my second
>> harddrive (linux) on a lenovo x230 I carry everywhere with the most ugly
>> tplink wifi module scratched on it with velcro (I'm not good enough to
>> install firmwares).
>> 
>> For like 2 or 3 years, I was unable to send emails from 9front for 2
>> reasons. First, Runbox (my email provider) doesn't use imap.runbox.com and
>> smtp.runbox.com but only mail.runbox.com and the sha key is the same for
>> imap and smtp (so no error message the first time you send an email).
>> Secondo, Runbox doesn't allow aliases for the sender and force the use of
>> the primary email. Using the "From: myrealaddress" at the beginning of the
>> email did the trick.
>> 
>> I didn't try to modify remotemail or anything, just because I didn't need
>> to (If it ain't broken, don't fix it) and didn't unterstood why I should.
>> 
>> But now, it doesn't work anymore (see the screenshot). I guess it's because
>> the From:myrealaddress isn't catched by Runbox and the sender is perceived
>> as being Glenda.
>> 
>> I'm sure the solution is very simple, like just adding something to a conf
>> file to force the primary email and I hope someone will feel compassionate
>> enough to help.
>> 
>> Just to justify the fact that I'm not lazy but just incompetent, remember
>> me as plan6, the guy who "copy-pasted" 900 irc lines on cat-v a few months
>> ago (I just wanted to save the chat), or the one who asked why sysupdating
>> 9front took hours (because I didn't allow scrolling in the terminal).
>> 
>> Anyway, thanks for reading. I am really proud and happy to be part of the
>> 9front community, even if I'm on the periphery.
>> 
>> screenshot: https://mega.nz/file/kwA0hahZ#O-XfJpKoEuj5cZtlYi-bp_--cYSqY0nXfjetgTAI8NA
>> 
> 
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Re: [9fans] Mail with runbox

[Ori Bernstein]

Upasname works the same in 9front.

On Sat, 7 Jun 2025 19:29:49 +0100, Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> wrote:

> 
> i think you are better off emailing the 9front community. i can tell you how to do this using the labs distro (you just set the environment variable upasname), but 9front&rsquo;s email is based on the 9atom/coraid code which is rather different.
> 
> sorry not to be more help,
> 
> -Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   On 7 Jun 2025, at 4:11&#x202F;pm, plan6@room3420.net wrote:
>   
>   &#xFEFF;
>   Hello community :)
>   
>   Need some help. But first, my boring story.
>   
>   I've been using 9front for about 5 years and it's my primary OS, even at
>   work (I 'vncv' other laptops when I need something 9front can't afford).
>   I'm absolutely not a programmer or anything, just a very low level IT
>   working in education.
>   
>   Like said in the meme from "the office", "I understand NOTHING" from the
>   emails I read everyday from the 9front community, but I read them anyway
>   and learn things sometimes and I am very grateful for that.
>   
>   I like 9front the way it is and don't and won't never add or substract
>   anything from it.
>   I use zuke for music (thanks Sigrid), Mail for email, IRC to chat with
>   friends.
>   Acme and Sam, of course and Sigrid's ext4srv to connect to my second
>   harddrive (linux) on a lenovo x230 I carry everywhere with the most ugly
>   tplink wifi module scratched on it with velcro (I'm not good enough to
>   install firmwares).
>   
>   For like 2 or 3 years, I was unable to send emails from 9front for 2
>   reasons. First, Runbox (my email provider) doesn't use imap.runbox.com and
>   smtp.runbox.com but only mail.runbox.com and the sha key is the same for
>   imap and smtp (so no error message the first time you send an email).
>   Secondo, Runbox doesn't allow aliases for the sender and force the use of
>   the primary email. Using the "From: myrealaddress" at the beginning of the
>   email did the trick.
>   
>   I didn't try to modify remotemail or anything, just because I didn't need
>   to (If it ain't broken, don't fix it) and didn't unterstood why I should.
>   
>   But now, it doesn't work anymore (see the screenshot). I guess it's because
>   the From:myrealaddress isn't catched by Runbox and the sender is perceived
>   as being Glenda.
>   
>   I'm sure the solution is very simple, like just adding something to a conf
>   file to force the primary email and I hope someone will feel compassionate
>   enough to help.
>   
>   Just to justify the fact that I'm not lazy but just incompetent, remember
>   me as plan6, the guy who "copy-pasted" 900 irc lines on cat-v a few months
>   ago (I just wanted to save the chat), or the one who asked why sysupdating
>   9front took hours (because I didn't allow scrolling in the terminal).
>   
>   Anyway, thanks for reading. I am really proud and happy to be part of the
>   9front community, even if I'm on the periphery.
>   
>   screenshot: https://mega.nz/file/kwA0hahZ#O-XfJpKoEuj5cZtlYi-bp_--cYSqY0nXfjetgTAI8NA
>   
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