From: arnold@skeeve.com
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Persistent memory (was Re: [9fans] venti /plan9port mmapped)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2026 08:46:51 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <202601071546.607Fkpfu095003@freefriends.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <496FF883-9C26-4292-916F-074B6F05B31C@ecloud.org>
Shawn Rutledge <lists@ecloud.org> wrote:
> I’ve been wondering why it’s still so rare to map persistent storage
> to memory addresses, in hardware. It seemed like Intel Optane was
> going to go there, for a while, then they just gave up on the idea.
Because Intel doesn't understand any kind of product except CPUs. :-(
> I think universal memory should happen eventually; and to prepare for
> that, software design should go towards organizing data the same in
> memory as on storage: better packing rather than lots of randomness in
> the heap, and memory-aligned structures. Local file I/O might become
> mostly unnecessary, but could continue as an abstraction to organize
> things in memory, at the cost of having to keep writing I/O code. So if
> that’s where we are going, mmap is a good thing to have. But yeah,
> maybe it’s more hassle as an abstraction for network-attached storage.
A web search shows that there are several options for peristent memory
allocators, many of which I didn't know about. However, gawk has
been using one for a few years. See https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3643886
and https://web.eecs.umich.edu/~tpkelly/pma/. It's built on top of
mmap() and only for 64-bit *nix systems.
For the short instructions on using it, see
https://www.gnu.org/software/gawk/manual/html_node/Persistent-Memory.html.
For more details, see
https://www.gnu.org/software/gawk/manual/pm-gawk/pm-gawk.html.
Arnold
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2026-01-02 19:54 [9fans] venti /plan9port mmapped wb.kloke
2026-01-02 20:39 ` ori
2026-01-02 20:58 ` Bakul Shah via 9fans
2026-01-06 22:59 ` Ron Minnich
2026-01-07 4:27 ` Noam Preil
2026-01-07 6:15 ` Shawn Rutledge
2026-01-07 15:46 ` arnold [this message]
2026-01-07 16:11 ` Persistent memory (was Re: [9fans] venti /plan9port mmapped) Noam Preil
2026-01-07 17:26 ` Wes Kussmaul
2026-01-07 8:52 ` [9fans] venti /plan9port mmapped wb.kloke
2026-01-07 16:30 ` mmaping on plan9? (was " Bakul Shah via 9fans
2026-01-07 16:40 ` Noam Preil
2026-01-07 16:41 ` ori
2026-01-07 20:35 ` Bakul Shah via 9fans
2026-01-07 21:31 ` ron minnich
2026-01-08 7:56 ` arnold
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2026-02-15 10:19 ` hiro
2026-02-10 16:49 ` wb.kloke
2026-02-08 14:08 ` Ethan Azariah
2026-01-07 21:40 ` ori
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2026-01-07 17:46 ` Noam Preil
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