From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <25123688dd0eba2dad8f0fa651d7fad0@9grid.es> To: 9fans@9fans.net Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:16:02 +0100 From: gdiaz@9grid.es MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] acme/sam linewrapping off Topicbox-Message-UUID: 80d48fbc-ead3-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Hola, i think you can take other approaches to solve your problems instead of using vim, or making acme behave like vim. see what others have done with acme: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/iwp9/papers/20.acme-trans.pdf may be that could give you more ideas, other perspectives, etc. about the tasks you do with those files how do you do them. may be if you want just compare some columns, or some rows, or look for a value, or change values, or whatever, you could write functions, regexp, etc which will make your tasks easier and more confortable to do. acme chording is really great when you get used to it. or even writting an acme client :), having a programmable environment gives you many options, original programmes could not imagine all the situations, but they were (and are) smart and included tools making you able to set the program to your needs. good luck :) gabi -- rudolf.sykora@gmail.com wrote: > >I haven't said that to use Vim is bad. Vim is my most favourite editor. I am >myself happy to have Vim around in Plan9 (and am not alone for sure). >Nonetheless, it's bad to not have an alternative which would follow the >system's principles. Please read all I mentioned before. Vim does not follow >those and is more and more distant from them (adding more and more features, >becoming bloated). But now, there is not a Plan9-like editor suited for >editing e.g. aforementioned files with several (real-number) fields (it >simply gets wrapped and is unreadable then; using small fonts is not a >proper solution since a too small font renders the file unreadable again). >To be forced to use Vim right away is in my opinion sad. (Opposite to what >you propose: you have to use Vim, you have no other way == you can't ignore >it.) > >R > >On 25/03/2008, Charles Forsyth wrote: >> >> > Well, vim@plan9 could definitely be a choice. But, doesn't it go against >> the >> >> > basic philosophy ... ??! >> >> the response here usually follows these steps: >> >> (1) at most a mild suggestion to try using the system somewhat as intended >> (2) ignoring it >> >> this is in contrast to affirmative-action companies such as Apple, where >> a port of Vim to the iPhone and Touch would quickly be sensed by the >> caveman intrusion detection system, >> and Jobs would soon turn up to shame the ingrate in public, >> and rip the device from those cheating hands. >> >> >> >