From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <25258ea5fee1d8a6d19f2d0e6f7b8f79@plan9.escet.urjc.es> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Hack for acme From: Fco.J.Ballesteros In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-ygzfhpqynfbmteutkloafmrspe" Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:18:38 +0100 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 7a8ea0a0-eacb-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-ygzfhpqynfbmteutkloafmrspe Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What we do is to make our changes and after experience says if we are using them or not, we keep them or delete them. I just deleted the Ignore command I added time ago to acme because we found that we have seldom used it. Regarding 3-1, paurea is using it a lot on directories, I've used it several times these days, but I still don't know if that's really useful for me or not. If after some time we find that we seldom use it, we'll delete that feature; but I think that we'll be using it a lot (at least paurea is doing so, and I think I'm going the same way). On files, I *never* used 3-1. Well, I used it once when I first tried acme, just to play with undoing buttons. I don't know for sure, but I think paurea never used it either. Most times, I notice that I used 3 to open a wrong file (eg /dev/zero and alike) after I released the button (which makes 3-1 no longer useful as a cancel). On the other hand, we had 2 on directories instead of 3-1 some time ago. It was confusing because some directories correspond to program names in /bin. That's why we decided to move to 3-1 instead of keep on using 2. --upas-ygzfhpqynfbmteutkloafmrspe Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by aquamar; Wed Mar 5 18:53:29 MET 2003 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3D2F819AB1; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 12:53:08 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B22A719AB0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 12:52:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Wed Mar 5 12:52:23 EST 2003 Received: from 18.24.6.202 ([18.24.6.202]) by plan9; Wed Mar 5 12:52:18 EST 2003 Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Hack for acme From: "Russ Cox" In-Reply-To: <5cb85646217c51c196bad7fda982f526@plan9.escet.urjc.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 12:52:21 -0500 We did not include the 3-1 change in our acme, mainly because 3-1 cancels a 3 that you've started and want to back out. In other words, as Rob pointed out before, 3-1 is already taken. It might be reasonable to use 2 to ``exec'' a directory by opening it in the same window, but then there is the inconsistency that 2 on a directory and 2 on a file behave differently. I think that if I had the ability to open a directory in the same window, I might use it a fair amount. I'm not sure how much I would use the open a file in the same window capability. I'm still thinking about 2. But 3-1 won't happen. Paurea and Nemo, how much do you use your 3-1 on files vs. directories? Russ --upas-ygzfhpqynfbmteutkloafmrspe--