* Re: [9fans] more bad news from Lucent
@ 2001-07-11 16:32 jmk
2001-07-11 17:40 ` Theo Honohan
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From: jmk @ 2001-07-11 16:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Wed Jul 11 08:57:22 EDT 2001, matt@proweb.co.uk wrote:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/5/20303.html
>
>
> Lucent to lay off 30% of senior managers
> By John Leyden
> Posted: 11/07/2001 at 10:46 GMT
>
>
> Beleaguered telecoms manufacturer Lucent has said it will lay off three in
> 10 of its top managers as part of a wide ranging restructuring program
> designed to cut its operating expenses.
>
> The firm plans to split into two main businesses - landline and wireless -
> both of which will focus on selling network infrastructure kit to service
> providers. Last year the firm had 11 divisions.
'Beleagured'? Over here the phrase which is always trotted out is
struggling telecoms manufacturer Lucent
Is there a word for this association of words? We see such inseparable
phrases all the time, e.g.
upstart chip maker Transmeta
former Panamanian strongman Manuel Noriega
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* Re: [9fans] more bad news from Lucent
2001-07-11 16:32 [9fans] more bad news from Lucent jmk
@ 2001-07-11 17:40 ` Theo Honohan
2001-07-11 18:26 ` Dan Cross
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From: Theo Honohan @ 2001-07-11 17:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Wednesday 11 July, jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote ("Re: [9fans] more bad news from Lucent"):
>
> 'Beleagured'? Over here the phrase which is always trotted out is
> struggling telecoms manufacturer Lucent
> Is there a word for this association of words? We see such inseparable
> phrases all the time, e.g.
> upstart chip maker Transmeta
> former Panamanian strongman Manuel Noriega
Clich�?
"Of what was there a flurry? Of diplomatic activity, of course"
-- Myles na gCopaleen
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* Re: [9fans] more bad news from Lucent
2001-07-11 16:32 [9fans] more bad news from Lucent jmk
2001-07-11 17:40 ` Theo Honohan
@ 2001-07-11 18:26 ` Dan Cross
2001-07-11 22:25 ` Jason Gurtz
2001-07-11 18:36 ` Quinn Dunkan
2001-07-12 0:07 ` George Michaelson
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From: Dan Cross @ 2001-07-11 18:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
In article <20010711163218.3205E199C0@mail.cse.psu.edu> you write:
>'Beleagured'? Over here the phrase which is always trotted out is
> struggling telecoms manufacturer Lucent
>Is there a word for this association of words? We see such inseparable
>phrases all the time, e.g.
> upstart chip maker Transmeta
> former Panamanian strongman Manuel Noriega
New (e-conomy) speak? The voice of a new iGeneration? Market Speak?
Management speak? Industry Trade Rag Speak?
I know, Jim, on a related note I sense an issue coming on, but I
don't have the bandwidth to address it right now. Perhaps you and
some of your e-colleagues could take it offline and whiteboard an
e-solution strategized from your e-xpertize? The ROI would be
visionary. You know, make it an action item to e-vigorate your
linguistic service i-offerings? And don't forget, use XML!
BOSS: Everything we do must revolve around XML. XML is the
light and the way. It is the future of E-Commerce. We
will use it to revitalize our deliverables.... Hey, mister,
just where do you think you're going? Let me see your
DTD!
DRONE: But, I'm just going to the bathroom....
BOSS: No excuse! Everything we do revolves around XML! Now let
me see a DTD.
DRONE: But....But, I just have to pee....
BOSS: Pee Shmee! Again, no excuse! No DTD, no pee-pee.
DRONE: (Starts crying)
BOSS: You see, people, in the New Economy, some of us are tougher
than others. We can't tolerate the weaklings if we're to
syngerize our core competencies around unleashing frictionless
deliverables. Anyone else have to pee?
We now return you to your regularly scheduled Ed Woods movies....
- Dan C.
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* RE: [9fans] more bad news from Lucent
2001-07-11 18:26 ` Dan Cross
@ 2001-07-11 22:25 ` Jason Gurtz
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From: Jason Gurtz @ 2001-07-11 22:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> New (e-conomy) speak? The voice of a new iGeneration? Market Speak?
> Management speak? Industry Trade Rag Speak?
>
> I know, Jim, on a related note I sense an issue coming on, but I
> don't have the bandwidth to address it right now. Perhaps you and
> some of your e-colleagues could take it offline and whiteboard an
> e-solution strategized from your e-xpertize? The ROI would be
> visionary. You know, make it an action item to e-vigorate your
> linguistic service i-offerings? And don't forget, use XML!
<snip dialog>
rofl!
~jay
--
+------------------+
| Jason@tommyk.com |
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* Re: [9fans] more bad news from Lucent
2001-07-11 16:32 [9fans] more bad news from Lucent jmk
2001-07-11 17:40 ` Theo Honohan
2001-07-11 18:26 ` Dan Cross
@ 2001-07-11 18:36 ` Quinn Dunkan
2001-07-11 18:45 ` chad
2001-07-12 0:07 ` George Michaelson
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From: Quinn Dunkan @ 2001-07-11 18:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> 'Beleagured'? Over here the phrase which is always trotted out is
> struggling telecoms manufacturer Lucent
> Is there a word for this association of words? We see such inseparable
> phrases all the time, e.g.
> upstart chip maker Transmeta
> former Panamanian strongman Manuel Noriega
A bit archaic, perhaps:
From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) [web1913]:
Epithet \Ep"i*thet\, n. [L. epitheton, Gr. ?, fr. ? added, fr. ?
to add; 'epi` upon, to + ? to put, place: cf. F.
['e]pith[`e]te. See {Do}.]
1. An adjective expressing some quality, attribute, or
relation, that is properly or specially appropriate to a
person or thing; as, a just man; a verdant lawn.
If it weren't so difficult to say, I'd consider "markovlets", under the
assumption that many "news" articles are generated via that technique anyway.
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* Re: [9fans] more bad news from Lucent
2001-07-11 18:36 ` Quinn Dunkan
@ 2001-07-11 18:45 ` chad
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From: chad @ 2001-07-11 18:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> Is there a word for this association of words? We see such inseparable
> phrases all the time, e.g.
> upstart chip maker Transmeta
> former Panamanian strongman Manuel Noriega
The word is `phrase', as in ``coin a phrase'' or ``turn a phrase''.
Sorry it's not very revolutionary. Perhaps if we were to write it as
``<phrase>...</phrase>''?
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* Re: [9fans] more bad news from Lucent
2001-07-11 16:32 [9fans] more bad news from Lucent jmk
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2001-07-11 18:36 ` Quinn Dunkan
@ 2001-07-12 0:07 ` George Michaelson
2001-07-16 8:55 ` Toby Thain
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From: George Michaelson @ 2001-07-12 0:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
Flann O'Brien, aka Miles Na Gopaleen. The catechism of cliche'
-George
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* Re: [9fans] more bad news from Lucent
2001-07-12 0:07 ` George Michaelson
@ 2001-07-16 8:55 ` Toby Thain
2001-07-16 9:40 ` Boyd Roberts
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From: Toby Thain @ 2001-07-16 8:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
George Michaelson wrote:
>
> Flann O'Brien, aka Miles Na Gopaleen. The catechism of cliche'
>
> -George
Gustave Flaubert, The Dictionary of Received Ideas:
"BLACK Always followed by 'as ebony' or preceded by 'jet'.
...
DISTINCTION Always preceded by 'rare'.
...
POLICEMAN Bulwark of society. Don't say 'the police' but 'the forces of
law and order' or 'the constabulary'."
Plenty more.
T
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* Re: [9fans] General question about hosted interfaces
@ 2001-07-11 10:54 forsyth
2001-07-11 10:58 ` Lucio De Re
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From: forsyth @ 2001-07-11 10:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
>>All of this is in part why I'd like to get an Ipaq (bitsy) when (if)
>>they stop being so scarce. It's got a processor that Intel didn't
you can get them off the shelf at several shops in York.
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