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From: "Russ Cox" <rsc@swtch.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 11:51:16 +0000
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Subject: [9fans] Re: acme mail
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> So I look at a message. it is /mail/fs/mbox/9 or some such. I go to the 
> tag bar and change it to /mail/fs/mbox/plan9/9.

All you have to do to save the message somewhere
is type extra text in the tag after the "Save " and then 
execute it.  I save spam that has made its way into
my inbox by typing spam next to Save and then executing
"Save spam".

If you want a hierarchy, create directories under
/mail/box/rminnich and then use Save a/b/c.

I'm not sure what Geoff was trying to say, but you can't
use Put usefully in any acme mail window except the
main one (to actually delete messages marked as
deleted).

> What I want is to somehow point at a message, click on something in the 
> tag bar, then click on a folder in another window, and have the message 
> move. 

That's interesting but not how things are done in acme.
You're trying to push the drag-and-drop metaphor into
places where it was not intended.  I'm not claiming your
approach is worse; it's just not the way things are typically
done in acme.

I note that your approach requires having some other window
with a list of folders.  Typing next to Save does not.

> Acme mail is an interesting foundation for a mailer, but it won't cut it 
> for people I am trying to show Plan 9. At the same time, I like its 
> simplicity, and still think it has a more sensible feel than (e.g.) 
> tundrabird, the Super-Mailer of the Future.

I am not convinced.

If they want Thunderbird, they know where to find it.

I have been using acme mail again for the past week
or so, and it's really nice to be back, especially after
the drag-and-drop clumsiness of most mailers.  

I am running a new upas/fs and a slightly-changed 
version of acme mail.  In my setup (though not in the
standard one - yet), Save goes through upas/fs, so
that in fact all my mail - incoming and saved - is kept
on the mail server.  It doesn't matter whether I Save on
my laptop or on my desktop.

Russ