From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Dave Eckhardt To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <26856.1147489313.1@piper.nectar.cs.cmu.edu> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:01:54 -0400 Message-ID: <26857.1147489314@piper.nectar.cs.cmu.edu> Subject: [9fans] history question ("Athena's OldFiles") Topicbox-Message-UUID: 51841df6-ead1-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 According to http://cm.bell-labs.com/plan9/about.html: Slowly, ideas from Plan 9 are being adopted by other systems. [...] The dump file system has been mimicked in Athena's OldFiles directories or Network Appliance's .snapshot directories. I don't know much about Athena, but I believe OldFiles has been the name for "yesterday's read-only snapshot" in AFS since the mid 1980's. The snapshot is mentioned, although not by name, in Section 6.5 ("Backup") of "Scale and Performance in a Distributed File System" (Howard et al., ACM TOCS, Feb. 1988), which documents AFS as of early 1987. My vague understanding, which could be wrong, is that in the late 80's or early 90's, there was cross-fertilization when Athena switched from NFS to AFS, and AFS switched from home-grown authentication to Kerberos. If so the appearance of OldFiles at MIT may well be after, but not caused by, the Plan 9 WORM file server's dump tree. Dave Eckhardt