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From: "LiteStar numnums" <litestar@gmail.com>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Les Misérables
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:37:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <283f5df10901181537r6e69f263j2625281a168f0dbe@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <379ca9f0562acf6f51e5f9e979c9d8a3@quanstro.net>

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Well, actually, I was thinking of something along the lines of Lisaac:
"dynamic" modules are statically compiled ala object files, & the run time
handles issues between Plan9 & Inferno. Sys->load & the like would not be
dynamic, but would work as expected. Hell, it could even just be a
.Net/perl2exe clone: every binary is just an ultra-cut down Dis + compiled
modules. I like the Lisaac model better, and that's where I was hedging my
bets; I have a bunch of notes on my local Inferno install, but nothing to
show due to more pressing issues. C'est la vie.
& debugging this would require a 9Limbo-aware debugger; the .Net-style
approach could serve a /lproc or the like though (not that the native one
couldn't, but the VMish approach could have hooks for stopping execution).
$0.02


On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 5:26 PM, erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>wrote:

> > > >Or have a native Limbo compiler; I've been itching for that for some
> time,
> > >
> > > it doesn't mean anything.
> >
> > Uh, considering that ircfs is for Inferno (via Limbo), having a Limbo
> > compiler to native Plan9 would be a potential solution, assuming the run
> > time could be kept the same.
>
> de top-posted for your reading pleasure.
>
> the reason that a native limbo compiler doesn't make any
> sense is that inferno is not a virtual cpu, it is a virtual
> system, complete with system calls, file system access,
> etc.  of course, this is the right way to do things since
> inferno needs to run natively and on top of other systems
> like windows as well as natively.
>
> i've heard that it was the opinion of some at the labs
> in the early days of plan 9 (can anyone confirm?) that
> plan 9 was a way to glue the unixes together.  if that's
> what plan 9 is, then one should have a fs to make an
> inferno's /proc appear nativeish.  but it's not clear to
> me that one could bridge enough of the gap to make
> this anything other than an annoyance.  for example,
> what if you wanted to debug an inferno process?
>
> - erik
>
>


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A: No.
 -- Ovid

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-18 23:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-17  1:07 Akshat Kumar
2009-01-18  2:04 ` Akshat Kumar
2009-01-18 11:14   ` Uriel
2009-01-18 14:28     ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-18 18:12       ` Steve Simon
2009-01-18 19:41       ` hiro
2009-01-19  9:26         ` Akshat Kumar
2009-01-18 20:16       ` LiteStar numnums
2009-01-18 21:53         ` Charles Forsyth
2009-01-18 21:50           ` LiteStar numnums
2009-01-18 22:26             ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-18 23:37               ` LiteStar numnums [this message]
2009-01-18 23:52                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-19  0:19                   ` LiteStar numnums
2009-01-18 11:39   ` hiro
2009-01-17  1:14 Akshat Kumar
2009-01-17  1:17 ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-17 14:36   ` Eris Discordia
2009-01-19  6:53 [9fans] Les Mis?rables jimmy brisson
2009-01-19  8:31 ` Eris Discordia
2009-01-19  9:45 ` Akshat Kumar
2009-01-19 13:39   ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-19 16:25 ` ron minnich
2009-01-19 16:43   ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-19 17:39 jimmy brisson
2009-01-19 20:05 ` Steve Simon
2009-01-19 20:27 ` Akshat Kumar
2009-02-25  4:00 ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-02-25 19:45   ` jimmy brisson
2009-02-25 20:40     ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-02-25 22:45       ` jimmy brisson

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