From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <2899e2610705070002w6149e8ael8906f08dd18d511c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 17:02:22 +1000 From: Wes To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] rio & acme & plan9 In-Reply-To: <32d987d50705041917p35c4ef7dnd031b96c1a858181@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2e4a50a0705041308l35428c44w2e16f8d26a72a22f@mail.gmail.com> <32d987d50705041917p35c4ef7dnd031b96c1a858181@mail.gmail.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: 5e842342-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 I've had some success compiling a cpu+auth+term plan9 kernel for a learning box before, worked really well too. I would ask why it's not done by default but then I remind myself 'thats not the plan9 way to think!' and ignore my own question. :) Wes On 5/5/07, Federico Benavento wrote: > hola > > you can also run caerwyn's acme sac on windows, which > is an inferno that runs acme, it might look overkill to install > inferno just to have acme, but it isn't, just 25mb in my HD > and it uses less ram that most gtk apps. > > http://caerwyn.com/acme/ > > On 5/4/07, Tom Simons wrote: > > I have had trouble getting a handle on Plan9. I got it working on an > > old PC, but didn't understand if I had a file server, cpu server, > > terminal, or all 3. The screens looked great, but I never quite got > > the hang of using it. Can Rio/Acme run under Windows or Linux? I'd > > love to give it another shot. Must/should you have separate file/cpu > > servers? > > > > I also really would like to see an SF-bay meeting, if only to see > > Plan9 in action. I've been using command-line interfaces since > > teletypes & 026 keypunches, and I remain convinced that I could learn > > another one. > > > > > > > > I've been trying to think of ways to evangelize rio and acme. It's a > > > tough sell - there is no "new user" subset. > > > In particular, to be at all effective with rio (and especially acme) > > > you need to be a capable command-line user and understand how to > > > compose those primitives. This means that no beginner will be able > > > to pick up our beloved interface and get work done, even after giving > > > them the 3-button low-down. There just aren't any training wheels, > > > and these days even expert users use the training wheels when in > > > parts of the system they aren't familiar with. > > > > > > I think it's a losing battle. > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > -- > Federico G. Benavento >