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From: rog@vitanuova.com
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Evolving rio / GUI development
Date: Thu,  3 Mar 2005 18:11:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <28d3c9a0e9df2ef5030f5ccb6c1ba677@vitanuova.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0503031200380.31590@athena>

> Triviality, but helpful.

actually these kind of details are crucial to a good user interface.

as observed by rob: ``A user interface should not only provide the
necessary functions, it should also *feel* right.  In fact, it should
almost not be felt at all; when one notices a user interface, one is
distracted from the job at hand.''

this is why acme is so deliciously usable - it gets the little things right;
in particular it is not modal, so one can develop "muscle memory"
for the commonly performed tasks.

this can't be said of rio.
actually, i'd quite like to see an implementation of rio with pie
menus. it's just a pity they're so awkward to implement
(and that it's not clear what to do with menus of open-ended size).
anyone out there implemented pie menus in the past?



  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-03 18:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 183+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-16 17:45 g01495
2005-02-16 17:56 ` Russ Cox
2005-02-16 19:15   ` Sergey Reva
2005-02-16 19:44     ` McLone
2005-02-17  5:50       ` Sergey Reva
2005-02-17  7:07         ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-02-17 17:15           ` Sergey Reva
2005-02-17 17:30             ` Tiit Lankots
2005-02-17 17:36               ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-17 17:42                 ` boyd, rounin
2005-02-17 17:47                 ` Tiit Lankots
2005-02-17 17:53                   ` Russ Cox
2005-02-17 22:21                     ` [9fans] writing code rog
2005-02-17 22:29                       ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-18  1:27                         ` Russ Cox
2005-02-18  4:48                           ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-18  4:51                             ` lucio
2005-02-18 18:22                               ` rog
2005-02-18 19:05                                 ` Paul Lalonde
2005-02-18 19:21                                   ` rog
2005-02-20 18:14                                 ` [9fans] Second class citizenship (Was: writing code) Lucio De Re
2005-02-20 18:24                                   ` boyd, rounin
2005-02-20 18:33                                     ` Lucio De Re
2005-02-20 18:37                                       ` boyd, rounin
2005-02-20 20:36                                         ` Joel Salomon
2005-02-21  4:30                                         ` lucio
2005-02-21  7:03                                           ` Bruce Ellis
2005-02-21 16:59                                   ` rog
2005-02-22  3:59                                   ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-22  4:34                                     ` lucio
2005-02-22  5:09                                       ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-21  7:10                                 ` [9fans] writing code Kenji Okamoto
2005-02-21  7:26                                   ` Tiit Lankots
2005-02-21  7:48                                     ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-02-21  8:00                                       ` Tiit Lankots
2005-02-21 23:49                                       ` rog
2005-03-01  1:30                                         ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-02-21 10:08                                     ` Richard Miller
2005-02-21 10:09                                     ` Steve Simon
2005-02-18 21:09                               ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-18  4:58                             ` Paul Lalonde
2005-02-18  5:12                               ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-02-18 14:57                                 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-18  5:01                           ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-18 19:34                           ` Tim Newsham
2005-02-18 19:49                             ` David Leimbach
2005-02-18 19:59                               ` Christopher Nielsen
2005-02-18 21:36                                 ` rog
2005-02-18 22:14                                   ` Christopher Nielsen
2005-02-19  9:15                                 ` David Leimbach
2005-02-19 20:20                                   ` Bruce Ellis
2005-05-08 16:15                             ` Ralph Corderoy
2005-02-17 22:52                       ` Charles Forsyth
2005-02-17 23:12                         ` rog
2005-02-17 22:52                       ` Christopher Nielsen
2005-02-17 23:02                         ` boyd, rounin
2005-02-18  0:20                           ` jmk
2005-02-18  0:54                             ` boyd, rounin
2005-02-17 23:04                         ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-17 23:07                           ` rog
2005-02-17 23:17                             ` Christopher Nielsen
2005-02-17 23:33                               ` rog
2005-02-17 23:42                                 ` Russ Cox
2005-02-18  0:07                       ` Steve Simon
2005-02-18  1:20                       ` Russ Cox
2005-02-18  9:53                         ` C H Forsyth
2005-02-18 12:17                           ` boyd, rounin
2005-02-18  4:21                       ` Russ Cox
2005-02-18 16:03                         ` rog
2005-02-18 16:04                         ` rog
2005-02-18 18:52                         ` rog
2005-02-18 19:01                           ` Russ Cox
     [not found]                             ` <53b78d28ce9ff18f6dc22cc280fc92ef@quintile.net>
2005-02-21 15:54                               ` Russ Cox
2005-02-18 19:50                           ` Charles Forsyth
2005-02-18 20:42                             ` rog
2005-02-18 20:32                               ` Charles Forsyth
2005-02-18 21:06                                 ` rog
2005-02-18 21:49                           ` McLone
2005-02-18 11:04                   ` [9fans] Evolving rio / GUI development Fco. J. Ballesteros
2005-02-18 12:29                     ` Tiit Lankots
2005-02-21  2:54                     ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-02-21  8:04                       ` Bruce Ellis
2005-02-21  8:24                         ` Tiit Lankots
2005-02-21 14:01                           ` Sergey Reva
2005-02-21 14:35                             ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2005-02-22  1:16                               ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-02-22  2:04                                 ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-02-22  8:21                                 ` Matthias Teege
2005-02-21 14:36                             ` Gorka Guardiola
2005-02-21 15:52                               ` lucio
2005-02-22  0:37                                 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2005-02-21 23:52                                   ` Chesky Salomon
2005-02-22  2:27                                     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2005-02-22  4:12                               ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-21 15:20                             ` Tiit Lankots
2005-02-21 16:01                             ` lucio
2005-02-22  8:07                               ` Matthias Teege
2005-02-22 13:52                                 ` Sergey Reva
2005-02-22 14:00                                   ` boyd, rounin
2005-02-22 14:10                                     ` David Tolpin
2005-02-22 14:15                                       ` Tiit Lankots
2005-02-22 15:25                                         ` David Tolpin
2005-02-22 17:47                                     ` lucio
2005-02-22 14:09                                   ` Charles Forsyth
2005-02-23  5:55                                     ` Martin C.Atkins
2005-02-22 10:26                               ` Gorka Guardiola
2005-02-22 17:33                                 ` lucio
2005-02-22 19:40                                   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2005-02-22 19:56                                     ` Bruce Ellis
2005-02-23  0:17                                     ` C H Forsyth
2005-02-23 10:29                                       ` fgergo
2005-02-23 11:22                                         ` Bruce Ellis
2005-02-23  3:47                                     ` lucio
2005-02-23 13:17                                       ` Rob Pike
2005-02-23 13:19                                         ` Gorka Guardiola
2005-02-23 13:39                                           ` Bruce Ellis
2005-02-23 13:43                                             ` Brantley Coile
2005-02-23 15:31                                             ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-23 15:37                                               ` Rob Pike
2005-02-23 15:53                                                 ` Bruce Ellis
2005-02-23 16:06                                                   ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-23 16:18                                                     ` Bruce Ellis
2005-02-23 17:37                                                 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2005-02-23 16:19                                             ` David Leimbach
2005-02-23 16:50                                               ` Richard Miller
2005-02-24  0:11                                           ` Dave Lukes
2005-02-22 23:47                                   ` Steve Simon
2005-02-23  0:21                                     ` Andrew Simmons
2005-02-23  3:59                                     ` lucio
2005-02-23  6:03                                     ` Martin C.Atkins
2005-02-21 10:37                       ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2005-02-18  3:50                 ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-02-18  7:10                   ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-02-18  7:17                     ` Bruce Ellis
2005-02-18 13:07                     ` Rob Pike
2005-02-18 21:23                   ` McLone
2005-03-03  3:47                 ` rog
2005-03-03  5:43                   ` arisawa
2005-03-03 17:12                     ` Sam
2005-03-03 18:11                       ` rog [this message]
2005-03-03 18:27                         ` Russ Cox
2005-03-03 18:54                           ` g01495
2005-03-03 19:43                             ` Charles Forsyth
2005-03-04 15:25                           ` arisawa
2005-03-04 16:19                           ` rog
2005-03-07  2:22                             ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-03-04  4:39                         ` Scott Schwartz
2005-02-17 20:00               ` Sergey Reva
2005-02-17 20:17                 ` boyd, rounin
2005-02-17 20:43                   ` McLone
2005-02-17 20:19                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-02-17 20:56                 ` g01495
2005-02-17 21:02                   ` Rob Pike
2005-02-17 22:35                     ` McLone
2005-02-17 22:39                       ` Russ Cox
2005-02-17 22:00                   ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-17 22:08                     ` rog
2005-02-20 21:04                     ` geoff
2005-02-18 12:15                 ` Tiit Lankots
2005-02-18 13:04                   ` Sergey Reva
2005-02-18 13:18                     ` Tiit Lankots
2005-02-18 15:50                       ` Sergey Reva
2005-02-18 16:01                         ` Tiit Lankots
2005-02-17 17:41         ` McLone
2005-02-17 17:58           ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-02-16 18:31 ` Steve Simon
2005-02-16 18:37   ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-02-16 19:04     ` McLone
2005-02-16 18:59 ` McLone the Great
2005-02-17  2:24 ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-02-17  0:15 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2005-02-22 18:06 Ben Huntsman
2005-02-22 18:12 ` George Gensure
2005-02-22 18:27 ` Brantley Coile
2005-02-23  6:25 ` Sergey Reva
2005-02-23  8:28   ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-02-23 14:34     ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-02-23 17:03       ` Sergey Reva
     [not found]   ` <b78d167375dbc912a20318b51cede65a@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp>
2005-02-23 12:09     ` Sergey Reva
2005-02-24  1:04       ` Kenji Okamoto
     [not found]       ` <0ff543a65f3c8fa9dab0a6a07def2f3a@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp>
2005-02-24  5:49         ` Sergey Reva
2005-02-23 15:21   ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-22 18:16 Ben Huntsman

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