From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-Id: <2AE2F180-399F-4134-8755-300332DA7231@fastmail.fm> From: Ethan Grammatikidis To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> In-Reply-To: <003201cadd83$81a9e5d0$84fdb170$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 18:07:21 +0100 References: <003201cadd83$81a9e5d0$84fdb170$@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install Topicbox-Message-UUID: 046938f8-ead6-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On 16 Apr 2010, at 17:40, Patrick Kelly wrote: >> From: 9fans-bounces@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-bounces@9fans.net] On =20 >> Behalf Of Rodolfo (kix) >> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:20 AM >> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs >> Subject: Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install >> >> I am agreed with Federico, >> vmware. Do not spend time with other emulators. > > The only emulator you're spending time on is Qemu, the rest are =20 > virtualizers or simulators, and there is a significant difference. > Emulators are much slower, because of what they have to do. Qemu is capable of full emulation, but when host & guest architecture =20= match (or are compatible, e.g. x86_32 guest and x86_64 host) it's a =20 virtualizer. Given x86 on x86, there is a world of difference between =20= Bochs's performance and Qemu's. Qemu's display is slow, whatever other factors exist. Drawterm to a =20 qemu cpu server is very much faster. I can't speak for disk IO except =20= to say it seems fast under my light usage. Also, to nit-pick, don't all virtualisers emulate peripheral hardware? > >> El 15 de abr de 2010, 9:02 p.m., "Federico G. Benavento" = > > escribi=F3: >> >> vmware, the rest just suck, qemu and virtual box being >> the slowest >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Joel C. Salomon = > > wrote: > My computer died... >> -- >> Federico G. Benavento > > --=20 Simplicity does not precede complexity, but follows it. -- Alan Perlis