[9fans] aqua sam ?

[9fans] aqua sam ?

[David Tolpin]

Hi,

I am going to port sam to OS X/Aqua by starting with the Unix/X11 sam 
and replacing libXg. Is it the right way, or should I use plan9's sam 
as the starting point instead?

David

Re: [9fans] aqua sam ?

[Russ Cox]

> I am going to port sam to OS X/Aqua by starting with the Unix/X11 sam
> and replacing libXg. Is it the right way, or should I use plan9's sam
> as the starting point instead?

If you started with the plan9ports version and replaced the
X11 code in libdraw with the appropriate Aqua code, then
all the other apps (in particular, acme) would run on Aqua too.
And that would be great.  Right now the plan9port apps run 
under the X11 on OS X but they can't be resized to be bigger
than the primary monitor, so if you have multiple screens you
can't make a really really big acme, for instance.  (It's not the
ports' fault; the native xterm has the same problem.)

Russ

Re: [9fans] aqua sam ?

[David Tolpin]

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or roast
Potatoes, carrot
Oil
celery
onions
green onions
parsley
garlic
salt, pepper, etc
2 cups beef stock

Marinate meat (optional, not necessary with better cuts). 
Season liberally and lace with garlic cloves by making incisions, 
   and placing whole cloves deep into the meat.
Grease a baking pan, and fill with a thick bed of onions, 
   celery, green onions, and parsley. 
Place roast on top with fat side up. 
Place uncovered in 500° oven for 20 minutes, reduce oven to 325°. 
Bake till medium rare (150°) and let roast rest. 
Pour stock over onions and drippings, carve the meat and 
   place the slices in the au jus.



Bisque à l?Enfant

Honor the memory of Grandma with this dish by utilizing her good 
silver soup tureen and her great grandchildren (crawfish, crab or 
lobster will work just as well, however this dish is classically 
made with crawfish).

Stuffed infant heads, stuffed crawfish heads, stuffed crab or lobster shells; 
   make patties if shell or head is not available 
   (such as with packaged crawfish, crab, or headless baby).
Flour
oil
onions
bell peppers
garlic salt, pepper, etc.
3 cups chicken stock
2 

[9fans] Dead Baby jokes - what the b⁵?

[Joel Salomon]

Where the bright burning bloodly blue blazes did these come from? And
with different member's IDs attched too - what's going on?

--Joel

Re: [9fans] Dead Baby jokes - what the b⁵?

[Scott Schwartz]

| Where the bright burning bloodly blue blazes did these come from? And
| with different member's IDs attched too - what's going on?

Looks like it is coming from the usenet gateway.
I'll see if I can block that.

Re: [9fans] Dead_Baby_jokes_-_what_the_b⁵?

[andrey mirtchovski]

> | Where the bright burning bloodly blue blazes did these come from? And
> | with different member's IDs attched too - what's going on?
> 
> Looks like it is coming from the usenet gateway.
> I'll see if I can block that.

down with comp.os.plan9...  it only serves as a spam fodder anyway.  i
can setup a monthly posting telling people to use 9fans.

Re: [9fans] Dead_Baby_jokes_-_what_the_bâµ?

[boyd, rounin]

> down with comp.os.plan9...  it only serves as a spam fodder anyway.

yup

Re: [9fans] Dead_Baby_jokes_-_what_the_bXX?

[Ronald G. Minnich]

On Sat, 25 Dec 2004, andrey mirtchovski wrote:

> down with comp.os.plan9...  it only serves as a spam fodder anyway.  i
> can setup a monthly posting telling people to use 9fans.

does anyone out there* read usenet any more anyway? Just wondering, I was
trying to remember my last usenet reading and I *think* it was 10 years
ago.  The rise and fall of usenet would make an interesting story, I rate
the final death as occuring the first time I say a posting on comp.arch
with an aol.com return address ... that was it for me.

ron
* that we care about, I mean.

Re: [9fans] Dead_Baby_jokes_-_what_the_bXX?

[Tiit Lankots]

> does anyone out there* read usenet any more anyway? Just wondering, I was

the archives are nice. no i'm not reading. since you asked :)

Re: [9fans] Dead_Baby_jokes_-_what_the_bXX?

[Steve Simon]

Hearsay on Usenet is the best way I have found to discover
what my ISP (NTL) is up to.

-Steve

Re: [9fans] Dead_Baby_jokes_-_what_the_bXX?

[Jack Johnson]

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:25:17 -0700 (MST), Ronald G. Minnich
<rminnich@lanl.gov> wrote:
> does anyone out there* read usenet any more anyway?

Only through Google.  I still find Google's archives insanely useful,
and when I occasionally follow some new thread it's only as they
trickle into the archives.

The catch 22 is that so few people post to Usenet anymore that I think
its value is waning.  The ongoing spam issues don't help any.  One day
Google will just give everyone a copy on DVD in their box of Wheaties
and call it done.

Though, it would be interesting to provide RSS feeds of Usenet groups.
 It could help a resurgence.

I also find myself occasionally answering some random, lonely,
unanswered question from 1997 that I randomly come across in Google. 
You figure they eventually found the answer or just moved on, but I
like to think that if it doesn't help the original poster it'll help
someone down the road.  The Usenet philosophy, I guess.

I think the archive is also good to remind me how much I sounded --
still sound? -- like an ass, and to just keep my mouth shut.  Still
trying to learn that lesson.

-Jack

Re: [9fans] Dead_Baby_jokes_-_what_the_bXX?

[Alexander Browne]

> Though, it would be interesting to provide RSS feeds of Usenet groups.
>  It could help a resurgence.

Google's new interface provides atom feeds (although it may not be 
advertised) : 
<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.os.plan9/feed/msgs.xml>, for 
example.

-- 
Alexander Browne
Mpls., Minn., U.S.

Re: [9fans] Dead_Baby_jokes_-_what_the_bXX?

[Dan Cross]

"Ronald G. Minnich" <rminnich@lanl.gov> writes:
> does anyone out there* read usenet any more anyway? Just wondering, I was
> trying to remember my last usenet reading and I *think* it was 10 years
> ago.  The rise and fall of usenet would make an interesting story, I rate
> the final death as occuring the first time I say a posting on comp.arch
> with an aol.com return address ... that was it for me.
> 
> ron
> * that we care about, I mean.

Does cycling through my newsrc and catching up on all unread articles
without actually looking at them count as reading?

I used to think that USENET FAQ's were a useful source of collected
information, but I've found the quality has decreased over the last
few years.

	- Dan C.

Re: [9fans] Dead Baby jokes - what the b⁵?

[boyd, rounin]

> Looks like it is coming from the usenet gateway.

that was my theory, too.

Re:_[9fans]_Dead_Baby_jokes_-_what_the_b⁵?

[Heiko Dudzus]

>> Looks like it is coming from the usenet gateway.
> 
> that was my theory, too.

I got mail looking like reflector mails from the newsserver
news.karlvalentin.de.  It's said, someone used my address for posting
spam to various test groups like alt.test.

I don't know if its true because there are no other NNTP-Servers
reflecting.

Did this happened to someone else here?

I took a short look into the headers but I didn't yet understand.

HAND, Heiko

Re: [9fans] aqua sam ?

[David Tolpin]

> If you started with the plan9ports version and replaced the
> X11 code in libdraw with the appropriate Aqua code, then
> all the other apps (in particular, acme) would run on Aqua too.
>

  My concern is that no one needs acme under aqua anyway -- no chording? 
Or is there a way?

Re: [9fans] aqua sam ?

[Rob Pike]

>   My concern is that no one needs acme under aqua anyway -- no chording?
> Or is there a way?

You can't do chords in Aqua?  I've been waiting for someone to come along with
a library that eliminates them completely.  I'd be a little surprised
if Aqua is the
one, though.

I'd use Acme on Aqua.  There are a number of issues with the X port, or perhaps
X itself.  I suppose we'd end up with a different set of issues but maybe they'd
be less annoying.

-rob

Re: [9fans] aqua sam ?

[David Tolpin]

> You can't do chords in Aqua?  I've been waiting for someone to come 
> along with
> a library that eliminates them completely.  I'd be a little surprised
> if Aqua is the one, though.

I was wrong, sorry for that. Looked at the wrong place.

Re: [9fans] aqua sam ?

[David Tolpin]

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with stew, place top crust and with a fork, seal the crusts together 
   then poke holes in top. 
Return to oven and bake for 30 minutes, or until pie crust is golden brown.



Sudden Infant Death Soup 

SIDS: delicious in winter, comparable to old fashioned Beef and Vegetable Soup. 
Its free, you can sell the crib, baby clothes, toys, stroller... and so easy to 
procure if such a lucky find is at hand (just pick him up from the crib and 
he?s good to go)! 

SIDS victim, cleaned
½ cup cooking oil
Carrots
onions
broccoli
whole cabbage
fresh green beans
potato
turnip
celery
tomato
½ stick butter
1 cup cooked pasta (macaroni, shells, etc.)

Remove as much meat as possible, cube, and brown in hot oil. 
Add a little water, season, then add the carcass. 
Simmer for half an hour keeping the stock thick. 
Remove the carcass and add the vegetables slowly to the stock, 
   so that it remains boiling the whole time. 
Cover the pot and simmer till vegetables are tender 
   (2 hours approximately). 
Continue seasoning to taste. 
Before serving, add butter and pasta, 
   serve piping with hot bread and butter.



Offspring Rolls

Similar to Vietnamese style fried rolls, they have lots of meat 
(of course