* [9fans] deroff, pic
@ 2008-10-23 2:36 Pietro Gagliardi
2008-10-23 11:23 ` erik quanstrom
2008-10-23 14:39 ` cej
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From: Pietro Gagliardi @ 2008-10-23 2:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
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1) Should deroff -w interpret curly quotes (“”)? Right now it doesn't,
so spell is treating any words with either character as spelling errors.
2) Some suggestions to pic: a rounded rectangle (groff has an arc
attribute), lines to connect the ends of an arc to its effective
center (useful for making pie charts), a fill color attribute. Any
objections?
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* Re: [9fans] deroff, pic
2008-10-23 2:36 [9fans] deroff, pic Pietro Gagliardi
@ 2008-10-23 11:23 ` erik quanstrom
2008-10-23 17:41 ` Russ Cox
2008-10-23 14:39 ` cej
1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: erik quanstrom @ 2008-10-23 11:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> 1) Should deroff -w interpret curly quotes (“”)? Right now it doesn't,
> so spell is treating any words with either character as spelling errors.
; 9diff deroff.c
/n/sources/plan9//sys/src/cmd/deroff.c:963,968 - deroff.c:963,970
return chars[c];
switch(c){
case 0x2013: case 0x2014: /* en dash, em dash */
+ case L'“':
+ case L'”':
return SPECIAL;
}
return EXTENDED;
- erik
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* Re: [9fans] deroff, pic
2008-10-23 2:36 [9fans] deroff, pic Pietro Gagliardi
2008-10-23 11:23 ` erik quanstrom
@ 2008-10-23 14:39 ` cej
1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: cej @ 2008-10-23 14:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
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2) Some suggestions to pic: a rounded rectangle (groff has an arc
attribute), lines to connect the ends of an arc to its effective
center (useful for making pie charts), a fill color attribute. Any
objections?
Would love to see it implemented. Please, consider also PS fill pattern.
Cross fingers,
++pac
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* Re: [9fans] deroff, pic
2008-10-23 11:23 ` erik quanstrom
@ 2008-10-23 17:41 ` Russ Cox
2008-10-23 21:06 ` erik quanstrom
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Russ Cox @ 2008-10-23 17:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
It might also be worth pointing out that troff does just fine with `` and ''
as curly quotes, so there's not a lot of need to use the Unicode ones.
In fact, in the default fonts I find that the Unicode ones don't typeset
particularly well -- they are too compressed.
So a more complete solution is just not to use them.
Russ
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* Re: [9fans] deroff, pic
2008-10-23 17:41 ` Russ Cox
@ 2008-10-23 21:06 ` erik quanstrom
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: erik quanstrom @ 2008-10-23 21:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> It might also be worth pointing out that troff does just fine with `` and ''
> as curly quotes, so there's not a lot of need to use the Unicode ones.
> In fact, in the default fonts I find that the Unicode ones don't typeset
> particularly well -- they are too compressed.
>
> So a more complete solution is just not to use them.
however, that's not a solution for documents which have used them.
and in theory, “ and ” have been specially crafted by the font designer,
taking into consideration all those fine details that require fonts to
be hand-crafted and not built by computers. (knuth's cmrm font has
” at 042 and “ at 0134, the texbook, appendix f, p. 427.)
wouldn't the best fix for poorly designed fonts be ... a better font?
at least in theory.
- erik
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