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Subject: Re: [9fans] missing applications
From: "Sascha Retzki" <sretzki@gmx.de>
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:25:03 +0200
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> - Good tiling window management. I won't go back to handling any window
>   borders with a mouse.

Hm, I find that one a bit funny. I actually enjoy that - maybe I missed the latest news in the control-windows-with-vi-like-keys technologies(tm) (yeah I tried wmi once)?

A full-screen button is the only thing that I miss sometimes. Pressing a key and acme is fullscreen ;)

A mouse is a damn intuitiv interface as it behaves pretty much like a single finger. imho

> - Threaded news & mail reader(s).

Those always confused me - I hate it.


> - Perhaps something like tor,

I did not check, but I guess they just enculapse a e.g. TCP/IP-paket into $something? Sounds like a /net-like fs can do the trick then.

> a filtering proxy,

What's that? Squid? What do you filter? What protocol? Pakets or content of pakets?

> NAT for others,

Yeah. See my post about it. ;)

> neat (snmp?) monitoring apps,

I recall gabriel (sorry, are you spelled that way?) has done something wrt SNMP. No idea if it is neat.


> packet filtering etc might be a way to sneak it to some lone servers.

9pf!!

Paket filtering is your last security wall - proper updates, an infrastructure with security in mind etc are the first things to be done. Furthermore, as you statted, Plan9 ain't really work as a 'router' (no NAT etc) in an environment where you need such thing. Anyway, I agree paket filtering would be usefull.

>
> Outside that, good terminal emulation with ssh would be one bridge I'm
> not sure that is available.

vt(1) works for me(tm). Okay, I just occassionally edit config files with vi and normally just use vt and ssh to shut machines down ;)

> I didn't find an irc client that wasn't a complete mess to use either.

I enjoy using irc7[0]. The 'server' posts a file in /srv and the clients connect to that - a nice solution as you can now start up ircsrv and then start a 'win' for every channel you want to be in (in acme I mean) and then do irc -t '#channel'

There is also Acme-irc (Irc) which basicly does the same - create several acme windows for each channel. Never worked for me on plan9, I was told it was done for P9P. In the end I did not care enough and just used irc7.



[0]:  9fs sources ; cp /n/sources/contrib/andrey/irc7.tgz $home