From: a@9srv.net
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] p9 mice
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:47:21 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2bc9cba3aaaff0a4dffe668e281beac8@9srv.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040415160910.428e5351.martin@parvat.com>
// So my question was: is there a way to be as convenient as the
// chords, without using chords? Has anyone any ideas?
given that all the keys/buttons already have their own meaning, the
only two options (far as i see) is making the *combintations* have
different meaning (chording), or expose the functionaly to the
existing functionality (click on "Cut"). both are already in acme,
although it's optimized for the former (sam, by contrast, i would
consider optimized to the later, with its menus under the pointer
on button-press, regardless of position).
there are two other options that preserve the "each key has its
function" assumption: more keys, or *replace* tun functionality. i
don't think the PgUp/PgDn/Home/End/Ins/Del block is used frequently
in Plan 9 (certainly not by me or others i've observed), in favor
of the arrow-scroll. Ins and Del could be reasonalbe Cut and Paste
proxies providing the same effect as the acme chording. or add
buttons, and get back to the old Sun aircraft-carrier-sized
keyboards. it's been a while, but didn't they have cut and paste?
the remaining option is toss the "each key has its function"
assumption, but i think that gets you context-sensative key
meaning, and intuitivly that sounds like it would confuse the hell
out of my hands - the meaning is wired well below concious level.
i *do* have a Shuttle Xpress i use with my PowerBook, quite
happily. it's got 5 buttons and two (nested) jog wheels. they
currently do nothing for me in Plan 9 or X11. in OS X, pretty
much everything's configurable, and (optionally) context
sensitive (interpreted by their software). it might be useful in
Plan 9 if i could map, say, the buttons to 1+2, 1+3, 1+(2,3) and
the outter jog wheel to scroll up/down.
anyway, enough of that. personally, i miss the chording in every
application i've ever used after my first month of acme.
ア
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2004-04-14 16:06 Aki M Nyrhinen
2004-04-14 16:28 ` Dave Lukes
2004-04-14 23:46 ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-15 0:16 ` 9nut
2004-04-15 0:22 ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-14 23:36 ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-15 0:09 ` Rob Pike
2004-04-15 2:57 ` ron minnich
2004-04-15 5:07 ` 9nut
2004-04-15 4:06 ` Martin C.Atkins
2004-04-15 4:17 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-04-15 4:48 ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-19 10:14 ` Martin Wyser
2004-04-19 11:33 ` a
2004-04-20 12:07 ` Martin Wyser
2004-04-20 12:16 ` William Josephson
2004-04-20 12:21 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-04-20 12:27 ` matt
2004-04-20 12:29 ` Brantley Coile
2004-04-20 12:52 ` matt
2004-04-20 12:36 ` Axel Belinfante
2004-04-20 13:50 ` [9fans] Acme (was: p9 mice) Sam
2004-04-20 14:57 ` [9fans] p9 mice ron minnich
2004-04-20 19:12 ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-20 12:36 ` plan9
2004-04-20 14:58 ` ron minnich
2004-04-20 15:15 ` Sape Mullender
2004-04-20 15:48 ` plan9
2004-04-20 16:40 ` Martin Wyser
2004-04-20 17:12 ` plan9
2004-04-20 17:22 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-04-20 19:14 ` Axel Belinfante
2004-04-21 6:47 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-21 7:19 ` Axel Belinfante
2004-04-21 7:53 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-21 8:29 ` Axel Belinfante
2004-04-21 8:44 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-23 8:55 ` Peter Canning
2004-04-23 8:55 ` Peter Canning
2004-04-23 9:01 ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-26 5:14 ` splite
2004-04-23 9:05 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-23 10:10 ` Axel Belinfante
2004-04-23 16:57 ` Rob Pike
2004-04-23 16:48 ` Russ Cox
2004-04-23 17:20 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-04-23 17:38 ` Russ Cox
2004-04-23 17:39 ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-26 8:44 ` Peter Canning
2004-04-20 19:35 ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-20 20:50 ` Rob Pike
2004-04-20 13:31 ` a
2004-04-20 13:42 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-20 13:44 ` [9fans] kfs -f file Charles Forsyth
2004-04-20 15:42 ` [9fans] p9 mice Nils M Holm
2004-04-19 12:48 ` jmk
2004-04-19 23:58 ` Geoff Collyer
2004-04-20 0:03 ` Brantley Coile
2004-04-20 1:53 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-04-20 1:56 ` Rob Pike
2004-04-20 2:02 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-04-20 3:46 ` Rob Pike
2004-04-20 4:07 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-04-20 5:27 ` YAMANASHI Takeshi
2004-04-20 2:08 ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-20 5:46 ` YAMANASHI Takeshi
2004-04-20 13:52 ` [9fans] Plan 9 grid ron minnich
2004-04-20 7:11 ` [9fans] p9 mice Charles Forsyth
2004-04-20 11:52 ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-20 9:48 ` a
2004-04-20 12:24 ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-21 15:59 ` rog
2004-04-15 5:13 ` Rob Pike
2004-04-15 10:39 ` Martin C.Atkins
2004-04-15 10:47 ` a [this message]
2004-04-15 15:01 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-04-15 16:52 ` Dave Lukes
2004-04-15 18:38 ` Richard Miller
2004-04-15 18:55 ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-15 19:22 ` Bruce Ellis
2004-04-15 19:23 ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-16 6:55 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-15 19:01 ` a
2004-04-15 19:11 ` Scott Schwartz
2004-04-15 10:59 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-15 17:54 ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-15 5:56 ` 9nut
2004-04-15 6:46 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-04-15 13:41 ` ron minnich
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-04-26 11:04 Tiit Lankots
2004-04-26 9:54 Tiit Lankots
2004-04-26 10:51 ` Nils M Holm
2004-04-21 9:48 matt
2004-04-21 9:58 ` Axel Belinfante
2004-04-19 10:09 Sascha Wildner
2004-04-13 19:54 Sascha Wildner
2004-04-13 20:03 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-04-14 6:14 ` Rob Pike
2004-04-14 6:21 ` lucio
2004-04-14 10:10 ` Dave Lukes
2004-04-14 10:28 ` Dave Lukes
2004-04-15 7:10 ` lucio
2004-04-15 10:36 ` Dave Lukes
2004-04-15 16:32 ` Micah Stetson
2004-04-15 18:03 ` Greg Pavelcak
2004-04-15 17:36 ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-14 13:01 ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-14 13:16 ` Dave Lukes
2004-04-14 13:30 ` ron minnich
2004-04-14 13:53 ` Dave Lukes
2004-04-14 23:32 ` boyd, rounin
2004-04-19 10:09 ` Robin KAY
2004-04-19 12:58 ` Brantley Coile
2004-04-19 14:40 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-04-19 10:13 ` kim kubik
2004-04-19 11:36 ` a
2004-04-19 23:52 ` Adrian Tritschler
2004-04-14 6:29 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-04-19 10:09 ` yassine
2004-04-21 9:02 ` Sascha Wildner
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