From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: erik quanstrom Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 13:14:51 -0400 To: 9fans@9fans.net Message-ID: <2c2d709c284ebc5c39fae7b17b9fda8d@ladd.quanstro.net> In-Reply-To: References: <92606a17ce255a2e74049e4090d948b3@proxima.alt.za> <36c5eca0f06e9acbe2fac19067f457d8@ladd.quanstro.net> <20140519195016.B21E6B827@mail.bitblocks.com> <3a6dcbf0845989d60e627ad4e5df4313@ladd.quanstro.net> <3A01CE35-B176-4A24-B3D4-24AB0874BB48@9srv.net> <1c303148ec8dc74c876330176c2fa54c@mikro.quanstro.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] syscall 53 Topicbox-Message-UUID: ea30cab6-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Tue May 20 12:42:35 EDT 2014, rminnich@gmail.com wrote: > I have a different perspective. There are millions of chromebooks out > there updating all the time, from the firmware to the kernel to the > root file system to everything. It all works. > > If you are telling me that the upgrade technology of Plan 9 can not > handle an automatic upgrade, fine; we have the proof. > > If you are telling me Plan 9 should not or never will be able to > handle an automatic upgrade, and is going to require a heads up email > for each kernel change, I have a hard time taking that seriously. > > This is not a human communication problem. It's a technology problem, > trivially solved for many years now by many systems. leaving aside the fact that plan 9 is software that installs everywhere and users can be expected to modify any and all system components, and that android is a hardware appliance running essentially a binary blob.... if we had a perfect update mechanism that did ota updates seamlessly, it would not address the issue i'm trying to raise. since people modify the system, and there's a community built around this, it would be extremely helpful if big system changes where communicated. - erik