From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <2c94a987b3b6ed5f812bb4c08df6761a@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: a@9srv.net, 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] using plan9 fs for archive from other OS? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-msybttmwclmfahwlhraxgdnown" Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 07:28:48 -0500 Topicbox-Message-UUID: b2d2e790-eacc-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-msybttmwclmfahwlhraxgdnown Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Vac (backing up to venti) runs on windows systems. You can back up using that, though at the moment getting files back has to come via plan9. That will eventually be fixed. Of course, we don't backup exactly the windows access rights (they have a rather rich access list). --upas-msybttmwclmfahwlhraxgdnown Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Tue Jan 6 06:34:33 EST 2004 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Tue Jan 6 06:34:30 EST 2004 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A096219E1E; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 06:34:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2531F19E17; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 06:34:07 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 264E719E01; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 06:33:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from 9srv.net (h-66-134-100-77.MCLNVA23.covad.net [66.134.100.77]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 70DCD19E11 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 06:32:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <92b1b45db0abc8b9206b9d8b3612b855@9srv.net> From: a@9srv.net To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: [9fans] using plan9 fs for archive from other OS? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 06:05:20 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable at work we run a handful of Win32 servers (god help me) and a few unix servers. we're doing tape backup nightly. our full backups are at the limit of what our tape drive can deal with and are still growing. so we need to come up with a different solution. and, more to the point, i *HATE* tape backup. further, plan9's dump fs is the best backup system i've ever seen (and, along with /lib/ndb, the thing that made me fall in love with the system as a sysadmin). so... any suggestions on how to use either the old 3e fs, fossil, and/or venti to perform backups from non-plan9 systems? the largest system generates about 50-60GB for a full backup (of the data we care about backin up, which isn't most of the system), thre's two more in about the 20-30GB range, and we don't currently have numbers for how much changes incrementally (but i believe it to be about 10% daily). Almost all of the data lives on Win32 servers. Preserving metadata (specifically, dates, ownerships, and permissions) is important. tips? comments? experiences? much thanks, =E3=82=A2 --upas-msybttmwclmfahwlhraxgdnown--