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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] Making read(1) an rc(1) builtin?
Date: Tue,  5 Apr 2011 14:01:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2cd7317662d2f6c8a3fd59e6aca30bc3@ladd.quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86ipusd1wr.fsf@cmarib.ramside>

> > This discussion is interesting.
> >
> > "rc is not as good a shell as bash because it lacks built-ins that
> > make it a good programming language for writing an acme extension"
> >
> > Did I summarizer it correctly? Once summarized, am I the only one who
> > finds it absurd?
>
> No, I think a statement of the problem would be more like "rc(1) is not
> as useful a language as $fill_in_your_favorite_turing_complete_luggage
> because it's not Turing complete".  You cannot map arbitrary input to
> arbitrary output with a program of finite size in pure rc(1).

space shuttles are not as useful as cars, because the space
shuttle is not d.o.t. approved.

that might be true as you've stated the problem,
but you do realize that rc is an acronym for
run commands?  and you do realize that the unix
philosophy is all about this sort of encapsulation
and modularity, right?  the shell by design doesn't
have to do everything.

i really don't understand why you can't just skip
reading the acme events you don't want, or if they're
mixed in with important events. write a little filter in
c that pushes the ones you don't want back to acme.
is the problem here that you are unfamiliar with c
and don't want to write that bit?

- erik



  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-05 18:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-03 22:30 smiley at zenzebra.mv.com
2011-04-03 23:22 ` pmarin
2011-04-03 23:41 ` Tristan Plumb
2011-04-04  2:02   ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-04-04  2:53   ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-04  7:54     ` Tristan Plumb
2011-04-04  9:26     ` roger peppe
2011-04-04 21:35       ` smiley
2011-04-04 21:46         ` Anthony Sorace
2011-04-04 22:03           ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-05  8:57           ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2011-04-04 22:00         ` Oleg Finkelshteyn
2011-04-04 22:33         ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-04 23:01         ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2011-04-05  8:58         ` yy
2011-04-05 19:54           ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-04-05 19:56             ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-05 20:54               ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-04-05 21:53                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-04-06 16:32                   ` Bakul Shah
2011-04-06 16:43                     ` roger peppe
2011-04-06 18:15                       ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-06 18:37                         ` Yaroslav
2011-04-07  8:45                           ` Greg Comeau
2011-04-06 18:18                     ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-07  8:45                     ` Greg Comeau
2011-04-05  9:10         ` roger peppe
2011-04-05 15:47           ` ron minnich
2011-04-05 15:52             ` Jacob Todd
2011-04-05 15:57               ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-05 16:04               ` Rudolf Sykora
2011-04-05 17:17                 ` ron minnich
2011-04-05 17:49             ` smiley
2011-04-05 18:01               ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2011-04-05 19:50               ` Yaroslav
2011-04-06 15:27                 ` smiley
2011-04-06 15:32                   ` Jacob Todd
2011-04-07  1:26                     ` [9fans] Busy mouse WAS: " smiley
2011-04-07 11:49                       ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-07 19:59                         ` smiley
2011-04-07 20:19                           ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-09 12:26                             ` smiley
2011-04-09 12:33                               ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-05 16:28         ` [9fans] " dexen deVries
2011-04-05 17:05         ` Bakul Shah
2011-04-03 23:51 ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2011-04-04  3:01 ` erik quanstrom

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