From: Ryan <rymg19@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>,
Ori Bernstein <ori@eigenstate.org>
Subject: Re: [9fans] New Language [Myrddin] On Plan 9/amd64
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 09:13:20 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2de32b2c-d7e4-47b0-bd2a-77300e79ef0b@email.android.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150104005900.d146d56df0f6cdab930a0fc8@eigenstate.org>
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That looks really neat! One question: are runtime bound checks really necessary? I would at least like a seperate release mode that gets rid of them. Writing a kernel with bound checks would be a mixed nightmare!
FYI, please tell me I'm not the only person reminded of Rust...
Ori Bernstein <ori@eigenstate.org> wrote:
>Myrddin is a language that I put together for fun, but which has
>developed
>delusions of usefulness. It's a complete reinvention of the wheel, from
>the
>ground up. Some of the major things you'll notice about it:
>
> - Type inference. Types are inferred across the whole program.
> - Algebraic data types.
> - And their friend, pattern matching.
> - Generics.
> - A package system.
> - Low level control over memory and such.
> - (Almost) no runtime library.
> - Self contained.
>
>For more details, you can look at the language website:
>
> http://eigenstate.org/myrddin
>
>Myrddin has been ported to Plan 9/amd64, tested on 9front. I haven't
>been able
>to get 9atom's amd64 kernel to boot on virtual hardware yet, so it
>hasn't been
>tested there.
>
>The compiler and libstd should build out of the box using the provided
>mkfiles. The libs used for mbld currently need either mbld or gnu make
>in
>order to build, or you can run myrbuild by hand. I've provided a script
>that
>does the latter.
>
>Almost all Plan 9 system calls are directly supported in libsys.
>As with Linux/Unix, only amd64 targets are supported at the moment.
>
>To bootstrap the code on Plan 9, the following script is provided:
>
> http://eigenstate.org/myrddin/getmyr.rc
>
>You can grab the script and run it as follows:
>
> ; hget http://eigenstate.org/myrddin/getmyr.rc > getmyr.rc
> ; chmod +x getmyr.rc
> ; getmyr.rc
> ...a lot of cloning and building happens...
> ; sam helloworld.myr
>
>For ease of hacking on Plan 9, I've added mercurial mirrors of the
>compiler and some libraries to bitbucket:
>
> http://bitbucket.com/oridb/mc
> http://bitbucket.com/oridb/libbio
> http://bitbucket.com/oridb/libregex
> http://bitbucket.com/oridb/libcryptohash
> http://bitbucket.com/oridb/libdate
> http://bitbucket.com/oridb/mbld
>
>There are a number of TODOs, of course:
>
> - Libdate needs to learn how to parse Plan 9 timezone files.
> - Libstd needs to get a smarter allocator for large allocations.
> - More libraries: lib9p, libdraw, etc... all need to be written.
> - A bit more thought needs to be given nicer, portable APIs.
> - More Plan 9 integration.
>
>And general work to get Myrddin to the point of day to day usability,
>int terms of faster binaries, more libraries, and so on.
>
>Still, if anyone finds this interesting/useful -- have at it. If you
>manage to do something neat, let me know!
>
>--
>Ori Bernstein <ori@eigenstate.org>
--
Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Check out my website: http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-04 15:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-04 8:59 Ori Bernstein
2015-01-04 15:13 ` Ryan [this message]
2015-01-04 19:45 ` Ori Bernstein
2015-01-04 19:08 ` erik quanstrom
2015-01-04 19:39 ` Ori Bernstein
2015-01-04 19:51 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2015-01-04 21:43 ` Ori Bernstein
2015-01-04 21:48 ` Winston Kodogo
2015-01-04 23:42 ` Ori Bernstein
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