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From: Noah Evans <noah.evans@cwru.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] insularity
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 21:08:25 -0500
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I'm sorry, I wasn't clear.

I'm not saying that people can't have a perfectly productive and enjoyable experience in other systems. What I'm saying is that those experiences are essentially impoverished. By necessity in windows and by sufficiency in modern *nix. 

Think of this analogy, modern operating systems are like eating in restaurants all your life. It's fine if you like the food, but if you ever want something else, because you never learned to cook(linux) or the restaraunt won't let you(windows), you'll be stuck. Or, worse yet, you'll end up building another restaurant to get the food you want, wasting 10 times the effort you would have learned by learning the proper(tool based) way of doing things.

Noah





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The difference between rote memorization and understanding. 

----- Original Message -----
From: bs <bs@nospam.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 8:05 pm
Subject: Re: [9fans] insularity

> 
> > But this philosophy is lost on people who are used to the 
> windows/consumer Unix world because they're used to solutions that 
> violate the tools method of solving problems. 
> This is not a fair statement.
> IMO, the beauty of something is to the builder, the experience of 
> something is to the user.
> A porsche driver cares about how it feels to drive, not the 
> geometry of 
> the suspension or the degrees of freedom used to tune it.
> 
> Similary, one can keep the innovations of plan9 under the covers 
> and 
> deliver something an end user might enjoy(even if it means tab 
> completion). (this is from someone who has contributed zippo (other 
> than 
> noise) to this list).
> 
>