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Subject: Re: [9fans] Newbie question
From: sretzki@gmx.de
Date: Sat,  9 Dec 2006 10:17:14 +0100
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> Hello!
>=20
> I don't like the mouse very much either.  I use it for placing windows
> and have learned just the basics for working with rio windows and
> acme until now.
>=20
> with "vt" you can put a rio terminal into "vt100" mode, and "ape/psh"
> gives you a Korn Shell, however without emacs and vi editing modes.
>=20
> Maybe you can get these modes back into psh and feel at home then.
>=20

Or you just learn the idea behind it all. This 'oh my gawd I must touch a=
 mouse!?!?!?'-drama constantly occuring in the so-called unix-community i=
s at least funny, but can quickly become annoying.

>=20
> Markus Sonderegger <msonderegger@aon.at> writes:
>=20
>> Hello!
>>
>> Thank your for your answers. I've installed Plan9 and tryed rio and
>> you're right it's much better than other guis. But it absolut not suit=
s
>> my workstyle. Normaly I doesen't use the mouse.
>>
>> What's the idea behind the desicion to have no console? I've read most
>> of the documention papgers but can't figure it out.
> ...
>=20
> The kernel has a minimal console.  It lacks an interrupt key for job
> control.  rio uses the Del key for job control.  I think it is better
> to let a userspace application do job control, and not to code
> functionality for an interrupt key into the kernel.
>=20
> If I remember correctly, the vt220 terminals had a mode for switching
> sessions, similar to the virtual consoles in Linux.  With some
> programming effort it may be possible to open one single maximized
> window at startup in rio, with a vt220 emulation and a similar
> functionality.
>=20
>=20
>     Jorge-Le=C3=B3n