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To: 9fans@9fans.net References: <4FB3A3BB-1CFA-4BC7-9DC2-CC9138B8325C@gmail.com> Content-Language: en-US From: Jacob Moody In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: f49e6e02-1280-11ef-b581-9d44068c7b06 Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UYWQzZGMwYzkzMDM5YTdkMi1NZTdkZmY5YmEzZWVmMDcxOGZhYmVk?= =?UTF-8?B?ZTA1Pg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:Me7dff9ba3eef0718fabede05:1:Whf_HR2dR8IxXWMSxF-W3ajYEsJVliNah8FOjnD3S2o On 5/14/24 23:46, Lucio De Re wrote: > If this comes across as a troll, keep in mind that it is your interpretat= ion that makes it so, a lesson we South Africans are still busy learning, a= t our country's=C2=A0expense. >=20 > I've got Fossil running under 9front; thanks to all those who prodded me = (and others). I would be happier knowing that there is a "canonical" versio= n rather than at least two varieties as appears to be the case from the abo= ve discussion, but I'd rather not spoil the moment. >=20 > My point all along was that if the source (Fossil or other) is not includ= ed in the (9front) distribution, a (bad) decision is being made by arbitrar= y (non)contributors for all the silent participants who may not even know a= bout it. Why would anyone want to play God? Isn't Google bad enough? The decision was not made by an arbitrary contributor on a whim, it was dec= ided after people maintaining 9front got sick and tired of dealing with people's data getting minced. Effort was put in t= o the two (and soon to be three) other file systems that have had a much better reliability track record. The inte= nt was to nudge people away from using what was deemed buggy software. If you want this to change then eithe= r you or someone else needs to step up and maintain the software. You are asking for 9front to take on the burden of maintainin= g an additional old buggy filesystem because it makes your life a tiny bit easier? A bit hard to tell from your wording but either you are saying the contribu= tor became a "noncontributor" by deleting fossil or are you accusing the person who deleted fossil as being generally= a "noncontributor"? If you had spent even 10 seconds looking at the git history you would have = seen that the one to pull the plug and delete fossil was cinap and not some random passerby. Do you not see the irony here? You, a most certain "noncontributor", are de= manding that we do what you want without any intent of doing any of the wor= k yourself. Why can you not just tar up your files and put them on a supported filesyst= em? Why are we still having this discussion? >=20 > I concede that I didn't know myself what I was looking for (I think what = "I" need is for 9legacy to boot, install and possibly run, from a USB stick= on any PC hardware, and support both IDE and SATA where present) and my ra= ther vague question was intended to make the details less sketchy. Instead,= I got a tirade about what I was or was not ready, willing or able to contr= ibute. Fortunately, that tends to have the desired effect with me, so right= now I haven't yet recovered my decades of pretty > pointless effort, but I know I can do it, with sufficient application, it= is no longer lost or teetering on edge of the abyss. Yes because you are asking for other people to maintain your software for y= ou for free. 9front maintainers do not want to do this, so the reaction is going to be to do it yourself. I don't know why th= is is seen as a surprising outcome. 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