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From: Geoff Collyer <geoff@collyer.net>
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I think the original quote Boyd was looking for is this, from the 8=C2=BD
paper:

	As discussed in a previous paper [Pike89] I prefer to free
	applications from event-based programming.  Unfortunately, though, I
	see no easy way to achieve this in single-threaded C programs, and am
	unwilling to require all programmers to master concurrent programming.

Fair enough.  Such a sentiment may seem old-fashioned nowadays when
everybody seems to want to write multi-threaded, hyper-threaded,
multi-tasking programs (it's faster, you know); just look at the links
browser.  One of the services most operating systems provide is to
convert asynchrony (notably activity on other processors and
interrupts) into something more manageable.  I find that enthusiasm
for writing multi-threaded, multi-process programs fades after finding
and fixing a few kernel race conditions on multi-processor systems.

Finally, from a fortune file:

Von Neumann's greatest gift was to get us OUT of parallel processors. -E.=
 Miya