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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] awk, not utf aware...
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:08:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <327536b0b8212e3b29f8e09922dcf3c8@quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5d375e920802281348h59578a70g6023db65dc4d8068@mail.gmail.com>

> I thought it was obvious that the output was from a 'standard' Plan 9
> terminal. But given the percentage of people actually using plan9 in
> this list, I guess I should have been much more explicit.
>
> And the problem is precisely that the environment under which awk run
> commands is completely different from the one awk is run in; in other
> words, awk spreads its 'simian' (ape-ish) nature.

i think that awk is in a no-win situation here.  if it used rc, then
awk scripts from plan 9 would break on unix and vice versa.  sam and
acme have similar issues in p9p's environment.  i don't see how either
using the native shell or using the shell from the original
environment is wrong a priori.  awk picks a lane and sticks too it.
i'd bet that benefits other ape stuff like lp.

if you really don't like this situation, perhaps the solution is to
improve upon awk.  a plan 9 scripting language based on sre's --- as
suggested by rob --- could be really cool.

- erik


  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-28 22:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-28 18:54 Aharon Robbins
2008-02-28 21:48 ` Uriel
2008-02-28 22:08   ` erik quanstrom [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-02-28 15:10 erik quanstrom
2008-03-03 23:48 ` Jack Johnson
2008-03-04  0:13   ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-27  9:57 erik quanstrom
2008-02-26 12:18 Gorka Guardiola
2008-02-26 13:16 ` Martin Neubauer
2008-02-26 14:54   ` Gorka Guardiola
2008-02-26 20:24 ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-26 21:08   ` geoff
2008-02-26 21:21     ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-26 21:24       ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-26 21:32       ` Steven Vormwald
2008-02-26 21:40         ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-26 21:42           ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-26 23:59           ` Steven Vormwald
2008-02-27  2:38       ` Joel C. Salomon
2008-02-29 17:00         ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2008-02-26 21:34     ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-27  7:36   ` Gorka Guardiola
2008-02-27 15:54     ` Sape Mullender
2008-02-27 20:01       ` Uriel

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