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From: Vester Thacker <vester.thacker@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] browse /sys/src
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:01:06 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <32a656c2050126010130a014a4@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d7b3771331fde107bfd315e256b31d71@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp>

On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:44:37 +0900, Kenji Okamoto
<okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> wrote:
> I should be more full to explain my thoughts on this issue.
> 
> 1) Do we need to expertize Plan 9 distribution more?
> 
>         No, these decade history of Plan 9 revealed we don't.
>         Plan 9 is for someone who really want it.

We can agree to disagree, but I say 'Yes' to the question. There are
areas where Plan 9 needs to be improved to stay current. I believe it
is important to change with the times. For example, more and more
machines today are sold without a floppy drive. This makes it
difficult to pass parameters, as with an edited plan9.ini on a boot
floppy, if you're doing a CD only install. Of course, Plan 9 can still
be installed but at a greater cost in time and effort. Why not revise
a method/tool if it is possible? Having an installation that also
serves as an aptitude test is a dumb idea.  "A program should do one
thing well", I forgot who said that originally.

> 2) sources is not enough for dowloading things for us?
> 
>         I don't think so.
>         It seems not so large amount of downloders of Plan 9.☺

Viewing sources via http and seeing changes over time is helpful to
some people. Granted, not everyone is a programmer. But if a few
programmers find it useful, then I say why not give them an easy to
view resource.

On another note, I wonder how often Plan 9 sources will appear when
doing a Google search for a C reserve word. ;-)

> 3) Do we need another host to prepare when the sources will appear?
> 
>         Maybe.  if so, Yamanashi-san がんばれ!

It never hurts to be prepared.  If Lucent was ever to give up Plan 9
and request the Plan 9 community to move the source tree out of the
Labs, then Plan 9 would have a happy home in Japan. Of course, only if
it meets the approval of the Plan 9 community. ;-)

> 4) Other downlod site may make the difficulty more?
> 
>         Yes, now it's not so easy to maintain the consistency between
>         source trees.

There is only one true source tree, the one at Lucent, everything else
is a mirror image. Consistency is an issue, but a manageable one.

-vester


  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-01-26  9:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-26  5:44 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2005-01-26  5:48 ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-01-26  5:54   ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-01-26  6:11     ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-01-26  6:24       ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-01-26  6:44       ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-01-26  6:53         ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-01-26  7:01           ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-01-26  9:01         ` Vester Thacker [this message]
2005-01-27  1:51           ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-01-26  8:49     ` Skip Tavakkolian
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-01-26  5:03 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2005-01-26  5:07 ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-01-26  5:09   ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-01-26  4:09 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2005-01-26  2:57 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2005-01-26  3:03 ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-01-26  3:30   ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-01-26  3:38     ` Devon H. O'Dell
2005-01-26  3:51       ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-01-26  2:09 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2005-01-26  2:00 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2005-01-26  2:27 ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-01-26  2:31   ` Michael H. Collins
2005-01-26  2:45     ` boyd, rounin
2005-01-26  3:50     ` Russ Cox
2005-01-26  4:28       ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-01-26  4:39         ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-01-26  8:49         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2005-01-26 10:00           ` Matthias Teege
2005-01-26  9:55 ` Fco. J. Ballesteros

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