From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <32a656c2050126010130a014a4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:01:06 +0900 From: Vester Thacker To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] browse /sys/src In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: Topicbox-Message-UUID: 35e39886-eace-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:44:37 +0900, Kenji Okamoto wrote: > I should be more full to explain my thoughts on this issue. >=20 > 1) Do we need to expertize Plan 9 distribution more? >=20 > No, these decade history of Plan 9 revealed we don't. > Plan 9 is for someone who really want it. We can agree to disagree, but I say 'Yes' to the question. There are areas where Plan 9 needs to be improved to stay current. I believe it is important to change with the times. For example, more and more machines today are sold without a floppy drive. This makes it difficult to pass parameters, as with an edited plan9.ini on a boot floppy, if you're doing a CD only install. Of course, Plan 9 can still be installed but at a greater cost in time and effort. Why not revise a method/tool if it is possible? Having an installation that also serves as an aptitude test is a dumb idea. "A program should do one thing well", I forgot who said that originally. > 2) sources is not enough for dowloading things for us? >=20 > I don't think so. > It seems not so large amount of downloders of Plan 9.=E2=98=BA Viewing sources via http and seeing changes over time is helpful to some people. Granted, not everyone is a programmer. But if a few programmers find it useful, then I say why not give them an easy to view resource. On another note, I wonder how often Plan 9 sources will appear when doing a Google search for a C reserve word. ;-) > 3) Do we need another host to prepare when the sources will appear? >=20 > Maybe. if so, Yamanashi-san =E3=81=8C=E3=82=93=E3=81=B0=E3=82=8C= ! It never hurts to be prepared. If Lucent was ever to give up Plan 9 and request the Plan 9 community to move the source tree out of the Labs, then Plan 9 would have a happy home in Japan. Of course, only if it meets the approval of the Plan 9 community. ;-) > 4) Other downlod site may make the difficulty more? >=20 > Yes, now it's not so easy to maintain the consistency between > source trees. There is only one true source tree, the one at Lucent, everything else is a mirror image. Consistency is an issue, but a manageable one. -vester