From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <32d987d50705041917p35c4ef7dnd031b96c1a858181@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 04:17:23 +0200 From: "Federico Benavento" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] rio & acme & plan9 In-Reply-To: <2e4a50a0705041308l35428c44w2e16f8d26a72a22f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2e4a50a0705041308l35428c44w2e16f8d26a72a22f@mail.gmail.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: 59eba33c-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 hola you can also run caerwyn's acme sac on windows, which is an inferno that runs acme, it might look overkill to install inferno just to have acme, but it isn't, just 25mb in my HD and it uses less ram that most gtk apps. http://caerwyn.com/acme/ On 5/4/07, Tom Simons wrote: > I have had trouble getting a handle on Plan9. I got it working on an > old PC, but didn't understand if I had a file server, cpu server, > terminal, or all 3. The screens looked great, but I never quite got > the hang of using it. Can Rio/Acme run under Windows or Linux? I'd > love to give it another shot. Must/should you have separate file/cpu > servers? > > I also really would like to see an SF-bay meeting, if only to see > Plan9 in action. I've been using command-line interfaces since > teletypes & 026 keypunches, and I remain convinced that I could learn > another one. > > > > > I've been trying to think of ways to evangelize rio and acme. It's a > > tough sell - there is no "new user" subset. > > In particular, to be at all effective with rio (and especially acme) > > you need to be a capable command-line user and understand how to > > compose those primitives. This means that no beginner will be able > > to pick up our beloved interface and get work done, even after giving > > them the 3-button low-down. There just aren't any training wheels, > > and these days even expert users use the training wheels when in > > parts of the system they aren't familiar with. > > > > I think it's a losing battle. > > > > Paul > > > -- Federico G. Benavento